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SPOILERS - Wonder Woman 1984 - Review Thread

We just finished watching it as a family movie night (holiday edition).

Everyone enjoyed it. Apple TV+ streaming had zero issues in 4K HDR. I prefer the first movie, but this one was still quite enjoyable. As expected, my wife and I suffered 80s flashbacks with some of the fashion and overall "look" (in an amusing way). Will add to the collection when available for purchase. Loved the Lynda Carter bit (though I had to explain it to everyone else--my kids are far too young to have seen her show and my wife was a unilingual francophone living in northern Quebec with two TV channels (neither of them American) when Carter was on TV).

Having been on the never-ending merry-go-round of Man of Steel arguments, I'm going to skip the "defend/critique" ride this time around and simply say I enjoyed the film, Gadot and Pine were excellent together, and any of the film's shortcomings were overshadowed by the elements I really enjoyed.
 
Yes, I am aware of all of that, which is I said a tiny part of me almost wishes. I would just like to see her get a happy ending with Steve, and since they're probably not going to bring back Steve the first again, then a new one could be a good back up.

She does not need a new version of Trevor. She needs to continue to accept that there are permanent losses in life, and there are no replacements.

Sorry, but I'm going to take the word of the woman who actually directed the movie, over what you think you saw.

You can buy whatever you want, but the Cheetah in the fight was undeniably a bad CG figure, not anyone in a costume.
 
Just because movies or TV produced in a certain time period may have had subpar acting or writing doesn't mean when you set your movie in that time period you need to go back and have YOUR ACTORS and WRITING emulate that subpar stuff.

I said as much earlier--the film looks like the endless horrible movies of the 80s, which should not be the intent of a film set in that period. Like the Duffers and Stranger Things' third season, its a distracting caricature of the period, which did not look that way to anyone who actually lived through it. Then again, Jenkins' failure--now that she had more control over the course of WW--proves that the absence of the guiding creative force of the DCEU who co-wrote and produced the first film essentially took the soul and creative purpose from Wonder Woman as a film property. The results prove that to be true.
 
They spent like forty five minutes on and off about the stone. You really need to see it where you can hear the dialogue.

No, I don't.

I will get the Blu-Ray for completist reasons and maybe watch it then.

Yeah, they explain the Dreamstone at some length, likening it at one point to the "monkey's paw."

I was wishing for subtitles, only the open car hatches in front of our row obscured that part of the screen. Only got subtitles for some translated dialogue near the end.
 
Having been on the never-ending merry-go-round of Man of Steel arguments, I'm going to skip the "defend/critique" ride this time around and simply say I enjoyed the film, Gadot and Pine were excellent together, and any of the film's shortcomings were overshadowed by the elements I really enjoyed.
I'm sticking here too - it cost me $17.01 (the one month subscription fee to a service I will probably keep) and that was the cheapest movie I have seen in a long time. It was a great stand alone adventure, had some messy bits but was overall more than worth the incredibly low price.
 
Having been on the never-ending merry-go-round of Man of Steel arguments, I'm going to skip the "defend/critique" ride this time around and simply say I enjoyed the film, Gadot and Pine were excellent together, and any of the film's shortcomings were overshadowed by the elements I really enjoyed.

I agree with you completely. Sure, there were elements that bothered me like the plane being able to fly overseas or the long, slow paced build up in the first half of the movie but I just didn't question the plane and I actually enjoyed the character stuff in the first half. We rarely get to see nice character moments like that in a super hero movie and this was a really enjoyable change of pace. It was filmed like an eighties movie and that was the way those movies were designed for the most part.

The irritating thing for me (and this is something I blame on Johns rather than Jenkins) is the continued tendency of movies to use comic book names for characters who have no semblance to their namesakes.Why not just change the name? The general public has no clue who Minerva and Lord are anyway--why not just create original characters.
 
Max Shreck is the only major villian I can think of who was created in and for a movie.
 
There was that guy from Superman III who, oddly, could have been Lex Luthor but wasn't.

I never watched the old Superman's. I tried a few times as a kid in the 90's but couldn't sit through them.

That said, a guy who could have been Gene Hackman's character but wasn't Gene Hackman's character sounds to me like he was supposed to be Gene Hackman's character but the producers didn't want to pay Gene Hackman a Gene Hackman salary so they changed the character name and hired a discount Gene Hackman.
 
I never watched the old Superman's. I tried a few times as a kid in the 90's but couldn't sit through them.

That said, a guy who could have been Gene Hackman's character but wasn't Gene Hackman's character sounds to me like he was supposed to be Gene Hackman's character but the producers didn't want to pay Gene Hackman a Gene Hackman salary so they changed the character name and hired a discount Gene Hackman.

Ross Webster wasn't really much like Gene Hackman's Luthor, but more of a precursor of the evil buisiness man Luthor who was still a few years down the road in the comics.
 
At the time in the comic books the closest character to Ross Webster was Morgan Edge. Not Lex Luthor.

Originally Peter Boyle was supposed to play Morgan Edge for 3 episodes of Lois & Clark. First episode was announced as “Edge of Metropolis”. For some reason when filming began his name was changed to Bill Church and the episode “Church of Metropolis”. Boyle was not available for his 2 scheduled return episodes for the 2nd season. So Bruce Campbell was cast as his son Bill Church Jr. clearly taking the father’s place. For the 3rd premiere both Boyle and Campbell finally appeared together. Along with Bill Senior’s new wife. A seemingly ditzy blonde named Mindy. Who was secretly a genius who was putting on a dumb blonde act to gain access to Intergang. Almost exactly the same character as Ross Webster’s mistress Lorelei in Superman III.

Total coincidence? Parts of that maybe. Others not too sure. For a long time DC/WB have avoided using names for characters created for tv and movies. Because they do not own the rights and would have to pay the original writers. General Zod was created in the comics. So they have used that name whenever they wanted. But Ursa and Non were created by Mario Puzo, so they avoided using those names forever. The paradox though is that they often use comic book characters names in tv and movies that have little connection to the source. I guess to avoid having to pay rights to use new names later in the future.

It’s such a gray zone times. Within the comic books alone numerous characters have slowly evolved or drastically been retooled to be completely unrecognizable to the first appearance. With only a name remaining. Max Lord and Cheetah had some relationship to their comic book versionS (emphasis on the S for a reason. Meaning plural, multiple versions)
 
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