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The dedicated Disco crying thread

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I don't watch a ton of TV, but it seems to me shows in general get pretty emotional these days, and I'm fine with it.
 
They aren't just co-workers any more. After all they have gone through together and especially now, when they're cut off from everything they used to hold familiar, they have grown into a family. Quite a difference from what we started with in 1st season.

That's true. But remember what the crew of Voyager went trough over the years? And they never hugged and cried all the time. Everyone acted a little more professional and rational...with some emotional moments here and there.
 
That's true. But remember what the crew of Voyager went trough over the years? And they never hugged and cried all the time. Everyone acted a little more professional and rational...with some emotional moments here and there.
And VOY rarely struck me as emotionally honest and I struggled to connect with the characters. Strict professionalism in the face of hardship again and again is hard to believe.
 
And VOY rarely struck me as emotionally honest and I struggled to connect with the characters. Strict professionalism in the face of hardship again and again is hard to believe.

Notions of family formation on Voyager were quite evident.
The Voyager crew got more and more relaxed around each other by Season 3 too... and as for 'strict professionalism'... I don't really think it was that strict.
Janeway got all emotional and cried (not to mention hugging Kes when she was evolving).

Whether Voyager was running under 'strict professionalism' is not something I saw continuously. It was more evident in the first 2 seasons yes, but from season 3 onward? Not so much.

Sure, Janeway ran a relatively tight ship, but only in the sense of the crew maintaining a hierarchical command structure and from her perspective, the ship was cut off from Starfleet and the Federation... so she thought the best way to go on would be lean on the principles and ideas of the Federation and be a proper Starfleet ship... plus, they needed to leave a good mark on the Delta Quadrant... so what better way to do that than being true to themselves? Aka, a Starfleet/Federation ship.

You could see that the senior officers grew pretty close to each other. Kim didn't start to change more personally until around Season 4 or 5... but that's fine for someone as young as him.

Heck, when Discovery first started, majority of the crew on the Shenzou was already there for 7 years and they were pretty 'relaxed' with each other more or less.

So some of Disco crew already had prior experience with each other. Not so much with others.
 
Whether Voyager was running under 'strict professionalism' is not something I saw continuously. It was more evident in the first 2 seasons yes, but from season 3 onward? Not so much.
Well, I didn't make it past Season 2 so you got me there. :techman:
 
Burnham's crying so shamed Spock that he refusing to let people see him cry in public.

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I think Burnham has cried in ever single episode. Someone should do some research.

Jason
 
The older shows were just more stoic. You can show emotion without crying. I'm not sure what the obsession with the crying is in Discovery. Is it just because they hired an actress who can cry on command? At some point it becomes meaningless since it happens ALL THE TIME. Plus it doesn't make sense for a character with years of Vulcan training, even if she is deliberately trying to abandon that conditioning. It's also clearly a statement about emotionalism and whether strong shows of emotion are a weakness or a strength.
 
Plus it doesn't make sense for a character with years of Vulcan training
Except, she was trained on top of a traumatic event. Suppressing that trauma is not healthy show of stoicism. It did what would reasonably expect to happen-burst back to the surface and now Burnham has been working through it.

But, it is fascinating to watch the reactions to tears. Apparently stoicism is still considered more valuable. :vulcan:
 
I think Burnham has cried in ever single episode. Someone should do some research.
Uh-uh.

I know you read this forum. And you probably saw a thread where I said I'd do this and shot down some Major Grin nonsense. Then I said I changed my mind for the reasons @Santa Carl just said. But please go on and pretend you didn't know. I decided not to shoot through someone else's hoops, and I'm not going to shoot through yours either. It's not a fair game because we all know goalposts are moved on a whim.

The complaining about actual crying and "crying" is all the Fandom Menace has left to complain about with Discovery because they know they don't have anything else now besides "But, but, but I just don't like Michael Burnham! And I just have to say it all the time because that's what I do!" So they'll just take it and run with it. No matter how it makes them look. My thoughts on it here.
 
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