DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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Maybe DC has plans for Plastic Woman in place?
The original THR article sourced by IGN does not actually say the hero will be gender-swapped, it says the movie will be female-led. While it does not take much to come to the conclusion about a gender swap from there, it's not actually saying that. It might be a female lead encountering Plastic Man, and the story being told from her point of view. There is actually something to it, as a comedy about a weird character works easier when coupled with a "straight man" character in the lead, and "female-led" might actually mean such a character.
Though I'm not saying this is any more likely than the gender swap, it's just also a possibility. And, mind you, a gender swap would open the door to casting Kate McKinnon.
Though I'm not saying this is any more likely than the gender swap, it's just also a possibility. And, mind you, a gender swap would open the door to casting Kate McKinnon.
I wondered if that might be the case. Given Plas's backstory as a reformed criminal, it might be the tale of the female lead clashing with Eel O'Brian and convincing/inspiring him to go straight.
Peacemaker casting news
https://deadline.com/2020/12/the-pe...sophie-song-christopher-heyerdahl-1234658349/
https://deadline.com/2020/12/the-pe...sophie-song-christopher-heyerdahl-1234658349/
Gal Gadot talks WW1984 but also touches on her Justice League/Whedon experience https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2020-12-17/gal-gadot-wonder-woman-1984
I think it's important to keep in mind that few people are intrinsically as bad as who they are on their worst day. I get the impression that Whedon was kind of burned out on blockbusters after working to exhaustion on the Avengers films, and now he had to come into a troubled production where he was an outsider and try to rework it in a way that conflicted with a lot of the work that had been done already. That's not a great situation to be in, and maybe it made him hard to work with and he didn't handle it as well as he could have. We've all had times when we were jerks to the people around us because things were going badly for us.
We've become too quick to write people off as irredeemable based on one or two bad reports of their behavior. It's one thing to do that with someone responsible for crimes as heinous as what Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby did, or someone who doubles down on their hurtful beliefs and behavior like J.K. Rowling has done, but we mustn't become so addicted to grievance that we instantly presume guilt whenever we hear a bad word about someone.
Yeah, but there was an article where people from some of his past productions shared a few other eyebrow raising stories. Like said before, none of this is going to make me stop watching his watching his shows and movies or buying his comics, I just used to think he seemed like a pretty cool guy, but now I'm not so sure about that.
We are all imperfect, and history is full of creators who have been erratic, difficult, tortured, or deeply flawed. I don't think there are many inoffensive geniuses in the world.
Lets also remember that they took a role in a Snyder movie, and ended up in a totally different Whedon movie. I can see how that would piss some off.
To be fair, we don't know if his name was the reason they signed on, in fact I doubt it was. He's not Nolan or some really famous artsy director that every actor wants to work for, he's the guy who made 300. Definitely a famous director, but not necessarily one that actors are lining up to work with. I'm pretty sure the actors signed up for the money/job, and would have done so probably regardless of the director, although the director swap out and whedon's apparent attitude seemed to make them wish Snyder had finished the movie, but I really doubt they signed on to the movie/franchise for Snyder, specifically.
Whedon's behavior is more than just a few stories. His personal and professional life is so filled with verified despicable behavior and/or acts, that this is no coincidence or (as some Whedon defenders have tried--and failed--to sell) a series of random indents tied together.
I do find someone else being typically hypocritical in pushing the "nobody's perfect" line about Whedon and his long history of terrible behavior, yet this certain someone was the same person who swallowed allegations made against Jeremy Renner (from his ex-wife) because of completely unrelated sexist statements he (and Chris Evans) once made about Scarlett Johansson. Oh, but now, it is Whedon who gets the "nobody's perfect" shield.
Sure.
Agreed. They knew who they were working for when cast in the various movies, and appeared to be quite satisfied with Snyder, so tossing Whedon at them, when he had nothing to do with the world building they (the performers) were a part of, would not inspire the happiest of emotions.
I mean they signed up for one type of movie and ended up being in a totally different type of movie...
but you're assuming that they cared if the movie was grimdark and Ayn Rand inspired or light and colorful, and I don't think they did. Gal gadot apparently doesn't care about that because WW84, for all its problems, seems to be very far from Snyder's style. We also didn't hear Mamoa complaining about how his Aquaman film doesn't resemble Snyder's stuff in the slightest. I'm pretty sure Affleck took the Batman job because he was going to make a Batman movie at one point, I doubt Snyder or his stuff had anything to do with his choice.
I think most of the actors don't really care about the type of film, they signed up for the job and most of them would have taken the job in JL/the DCEU even if Snyder had never been involved and it had always been a less grimdark universe (probably not Ray Fisher, because he seems like a very dour person who hates more lighthearted stuff). This is a job for them, and even if they enjoy the job (which some, like Gadot, seem to), they signed up because they;re actors and thought it would be good for their career/wallet, this almost certainly isn't a "actor really wanted to work with one specific person/on one type of film" situation. Its a big franchise thing and thats what most of the actors signed on for, to be in a franchise, not in a Snyder film/franchise specifically.