Could Elements of Fan Fims Ever Become Canon?

[Dukhat]

Script by Kirsten Beyer. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Also, when a set piece was borrowed from a fan film for an episode of "Enterprise", the title of the fanfilm, "In Harm's Way", was dropped into the canonical script as an Easter egg.

"Vulcan's Forge", referenced as a homage in another episode, was also coined in a fanzine story published in 1969.

As I mentioned above, Beyer may have known what she was doing, but the origin of the name went right over CBS’s head. Or at least that’s my guess.

 

[Therin of Andor]

As I mentioned above, Beyer may have known what she was doing, but the origin of the name went right over CBS’s head. Or at least that’s my guess.

Ms Beyer is the current CBS Consumer Products liaison between Picard/Discovery and the licensees.

 

[Dukhat]

Ms Beyer is the current CBS Consumer Products liaison between Picard/Discovery and the licensees.

Did she tell the CBS suits that she was going to use a term coined by a fan production? If she did and they didn’t care, then great. If not, then I would assume the CBS suits simply didn’t know about the term’s origin.

Either way, I think this is getting quite off the topic, which was about CBS allowing fan films to be canon.

 

[Maurice]

Either way, I think this is getting quite off the topic, which was about CBS allowing elements of fan films to be canon.

FTFY.

 

[Dukhat]

FTFY.

The term that was used in DSC was from a poem by a fan, not a fan film, or any element thereof from a fan film.

 

[Tim Thomason]

As I mentioned above, Beyer may have known what she was doing, but the origin of the name went right over CBS’s head. Or at least that’s my guess.

The term was used in Star Trek before. Mike Sussman, writer of Shadows of P'Jem, used it for a Vulcan ship in that episode. He took it from the official 1976 New Voyages anthology (short story "Ni'Var" by Claire Gabriel) which was really just repeating the common fandom term created by Dorothy Heydt in 1967. Sussman claimed it came strictly from the anthology, but he was likely familiar with its existence from common fan terminology before that.

I don't think there's anything legally problematic with the use of the term Ni Var in Star Trek, given the long history of using it in official publications/productions (1976, 2002).

 

[Maurice]

The term that was used in DSC was from a poem by a fan, not a fan film, or any element thereof from a fan film.

Not my point. You wrote...

[...]quite off the topic, which was about CBS allowing fan films to be canon.

Which the thread is not about, since it's, "Could Elements of Fan Fims [sic] Ever Become Canon?" Elements of, not whole fanfilms. That was my point.

 

[Dukhat]

"Could Elements of Fan Fims Ever Become Canon?"

Thanks for reiterating the title of the thread, which has nothing to do with what I was talking about.