Could Elements of Fan Fims Ever Become Canon?

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  1. Ketrick

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    Could an element from a fan film ever become canon? Elements from other Star Trek media has become canon like Uhura's and Sulu's first name so why couldn't something from fan films. An example would be the second larger Guardian from Star Trek: New Voyages "In Harm's Way". If any element from the fan films were to become canon, which ones would you want to?
     
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  2. F. King Daniel

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    Uhura and Sulu's first names were from officially licensed Star Trek media. So it's a world apart from something in a fan film.

    That being said, Discovery just
    Renamed Vulcan after a poem in the 1967 fanzine Spockanalia
    so I guess anything's possible.

    If there were one fanfilm I could make canon, it would be Of Gods and Men. I loved that movie.
     
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  4. Ketrick

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    Me too. I would love to canonize Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II and Star Trek Continues as well. However, none of those will be canonized, but perhaps elements of them could be. I would love for the office of Kitumba and other elements from the episode to be canonized such as the characters Ksia and Malkthon. I would also love for the museum ship Enterprise to be referenced under the command of one of Captain Kirk's nephews.
     
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  5. Maurice

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    Bleh. No no no!
     
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  6. Dukhat

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    CBS will never make anything canon from a fan film.
     
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    No. Just no.
     
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  8. Maurice

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    Okay...the one thing I'd let slide is them having the Exeter numbered 1706. ;)
     
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    I've got certain fan series (well, just STC) that're part of my personal head-canon, but do I think CBS/Viacom should officially canonize them? Absolutely not, fan-made stuff should stay separate and unofficial.
     
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  10. Bixby

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    I'm fine with different film production groups interacting with each other (some have)...but all that comes to my head after reading your request is why?
     
  11. MikeH92467

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    I would imagine the Powers That Be would do everything they could to avoid giving the impression that they adopted anything from a fan production. Just a guess.
     
  12. Tosk

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    And yet they still embraced a fan-created word for a planet name. :)
     
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  13. Maurice

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    53 years later.
     
  14. F. King Daniel

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    And it wasn't a planet name, it was Vulcan for "two form" (and thus the perfect name for the reunified peoples of Vulcan and Romulus 900 years later) and the name of a poem Spock writes. Lots of detail at Fanlore.com.
     
  15. Dukhat

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    And I doubt CBS even knew the name’s origin.
     
  16. Tosk

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    Yes. But that's pretty quick compared to "never". ;)

    Fair correction. Edit made.
     
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  17. Noname Given

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    Depends on how you define CBS here as the author of the episode definitely knew the names' origin; And she is effectively doing a work for hire for CBS.
     
  18. Dukhat

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    I define CBS as the corporate suits who greenlight shows.
     
  19. Maurice

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    Well, you can't copyright words or names so the rando pickup of a term used in a fan anything is not exactly a big deal.
     
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    Script by Kirsten Beyer. She knew exactly what she was doing.

    Also, when a set piece was borrowed from a fan film for an episode of "Enterprise", the title of the fanfilm, "In Harm's Way", was dropped into the canonical script as an Easter egg.

    "Vulcan's Forge", referenced as a homage in another episode, was also coined in a fanzine story published in 1969.
     
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