Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Nov 25, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Worth the wait.

    19.4%
  2. 9

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  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - They should have stopped at "II".

    3.2%
  1. cultcross

    cultcross Postponed for the snooker Moderator

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    But why would you do that? It meant nothing, at least in the US, until much later. Without the hindsight that we have, it would be a very odd reference to make in December or January last year.
     
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  2. Irvy

    Irvy Commander Red Shirt

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    Well, you only have to look at the way the president threw herself at Saru when he asked if they could keep in touch. Unification 3? More like Vulcan Love Slave 3.
     
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  3. Blue Squadron

    Blue Squadron Captain Captain

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    Any apparent connection between the pandemic and the show hinges on the use of the number “19.” I can’t see this as anything other than pure coincidence. When was the script of 3x07 actually written...?

    The official names COVID-19 and SARS-CoV-2 were issued by the WHO on 11 February 2020. Prior to that, the temporary name 2019-nCov was given in Jan 2020.

    Given everything else that was going on, is it reasonable to assume that there would be script re-writes and pickup shoots just to include this?

    Honestly, let’s stay well clear of Q-Anon territory, shall we...?
     
  4. Blue Squadron

    Blue Squadron Captain Captain

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    Ha! “Maybe you’d like to give me your new TriCom Badge number Captain? Has anyone shown you what happens when you swipe left or right...?”
     
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  5. Bad Thoughts

    Bad Thoughts Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I would not put it past the writers to use SB-19 as a Brexit reference.
     
  6. Irvy

    Irvy Commander Red Shirt

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    Gentlemen, as a wise woman once quoted, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
     
  7. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    There was another alternative - Vance could have assigned Saru an uptime XO. That arguably would have been a superior decision, insofar as it would introduce a (non-villainous) antagonist/foil into the mix, who would be more of a disciplinarian and step on the toes of the crew.

    Not every promotion needs to be an "aww, you go girl!" reaction after all.

    All of the examples you gave are still professional organizations which can be rife with their own interpersonal conflicts. While I'm enjoying Discovery this season, it kinda has a little too much of a "BFFs at a slumber party" or "group therapy session" vibe. I'm happy the show isn't edgelord any longer, but there's a middle step between the two of people who just act like professionals with one another.
     
  8. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Commodore Commodore

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    This show would have worked well as an academy show aimed at teens like the new Walking dead or something.
    You could have the Mammy issues science officer crying about boys to the insecure No.1 in their shared bedroom
     
  9. Reyman

    Reyman Commander Red Shirt

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    Some of us have been thinking this for a while now, so this episode felt like they doubled down on emotions and crying.

    Having said that, a lot of the crying and emotions made sense for this particular episode, mostly relating to the Burnham family reunion. It just all felt diluted because that's all we seem to be getting now.
     
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  10. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    I haven't said what I'm giving this yet, but it's not a 9.
     
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  11. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Commodore Commodore

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    Ha I love how you assume when I was talking about crazy hardcore DIS fans I meant you.
    I like your analysis as it goes beyond the "but Kirk did it " stuff
     
  12. Noname Given

    Noname Given Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Plus in the JJ verse, Pike was fascinated completely by the USS Kelvin incident. That's one reason he was so interested in JJ Kirk as well.
     
  13. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    I’m saying not everyone will be mixed, not that there won’t be mixing. Even today there are people who’s ancestry is limited to one region. My mother has two ethnicities : Scots and English and both are on the same island.
     
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  14. Noname Given

    Noname Given Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Starfleet probably didn't redact it. Jean-Luc Picard probably did. Remember that the computer stated it came from his personal archives. The other interesting thing is the computer stated it was the personal archives of Captain Picard. IE - somehow the fact he made Admiral was never recorded.

    Edited to add: whoops; I stand corrected it (see below) as in the scene it was stated to be from the archives of Admiral Picard. My bad.
     
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  15. jackoverfull

    jackoverfull Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    how would this even work? Stupid Brexit 2019?
     
  16. jackoverfull

    jackoverfull Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    And how far back does this go? We’re talking or about 1200 years of interstellar mixing here...

    i remember hearing admiral. Even so, he was captain when that recording was taken.
     
  17. jackoverfull

    jackoverfull Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Definitely admiral.
     
  18. Paul755

    Paul755 Commodore Commodore

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    you do remember how most promotions work in the MU right? I mean, she was “Captain Killy” for a reason.
     
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  19. Noname Given

    Noname Given Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The speeches written for the character of Michael Burnham are so far overall much better than the hypocritical "The Federation is always right" diatribes delivered by Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard during the entire run of TNG. YMMV.
     
  20. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Commodore Commodore

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    Like in "Measure of a Man" where the federation were right or "I Borg" oh wait
     
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