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Spoilers 31st/32nd Century Ships Revealed

You're never happy about anything. They devoted a good fraction of the show to ship porn. But it wasn't enough.
20 s of the same far distance shot, 18 s of closeup of 3 different ships, but only as small pictures within the whole picture, 7 s of flying forest, 12 s flyby where we see the Nog, 10 s of the Disco approaching HQ with small ships in the background. That's hardly ship porn, and your "good fraction" is only 2%.
 
I personally think it was a blunder and that the original intent was that the Tikhov really was a 23rd century ship. But then someone else decided that it was supposed to be a contemporary ship with a registry that indicates, as you state, that it's a Tikhov, but not the Tikhov that Burnham was referring to.

Yeah, the kicker was the Tikhov's registry number - which ended in M.

So it would seem that there is always *a* seed ship called Tikhov, its contents being passed down from one ship to the next. Thus, Tikhov would be just one more example of a name being reused across multiple vessels, like Enterprise and Voyager.
 
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does anyone know what the full registry number for the armstrong is? I know its NCC-317 but the rest is blurry.

also I’m liking the new constitution class style it looks like it really is a descendant of the 23rd century version
 
I really wonder what Owo meant with "new Constitution" here. I mean, she could at least theoretically read the name off the hull even when the audience really can't, and thus simply be saying that this ship is a new one and named Constitution. But she's also expressing awe from the get-go there, and perhaps actually saying "So this is what they have for a Constitution class nowadays!", feeling that this ship, the arguably biggest and baddest of the lot, enjoys comparable special status.

From the looks of it, the Constitution (of whatever class) may well be analogous to the Constitution in the 2250s-60s: she's an extremely conservative design, with attached nacelles and all, and may well have been a venerable relic back in the time of the Burn already, much like Pike's ship seems to be in the DSC context.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Yeah, the kicker was the Tikhov's registry number - which ended in M.

Which shows that the masters of the bridge display props were in agreement with the people who created the advanced interior of the Tikhov, quite regardless of what the writers may have been thinking. But the writers being of a different opinion sounds extremely unlikely here, too, as they would have been the ones in charge of writing things like "big hero ship tractors in small seed vault ship" or "fantastic and futuristic archives gadgetry gives Burnham access to the McGuffin jar", even if artistic details would have been the purview of others.

So it would seem that there is always *a* seed ship called Tikhov, its contents being passed down from one ship to the next. Thus, Tikhov would be just one more example of a name being reused across multiple vessels, like Enterprise and Voyager.

And in that special way where the registry also gets repeated. Although Tikhov is our very first true and explicit example of the ship's mission also being perpetuated: we know nothing about other Voyagers besides Janeway's, or of other Yamatos, and the assorted Enterprises were all over the map.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Does anybody think the big white atrium for the Starfleet HQ in the 31st century is the recycled Kelvin Enterprise's atrium set from Into Darkness?
 
The "case by case" bit explains why it was Enterprise NCC-1701 and not Enterprise NX-01-A, or why the new Defiant at the very end of DS9 kept the number of the original with no changes or letters (real life reason: Stock footage) etc.
Hmm? The first warp 5 starship that was Captained by the future first President of the Federation. The ship and crew saved earth from been destroyed by the Xindi and was instrumental in the founding of the Federation. She would definitely be recognized.
But none of that matters actually because in the 22nd Century the registry is different. It's NX class. By TOS's time the NX stands for experimental starships so it wouldn't have been used anyway.
 
The fourth number of Armstrong's registry is a "3". The rest can not be read.

There is another ship with a name and a registry in the fleet. It is the ship seen near the Discovery at the end of the episode. However, it can not be read.
 
Does anybody think the big white atrium for the Starfleet HQ in the 31st century is the recycled Kelvin Enterprise's atrium set from Into Darkness?

I don't remember an atrium in Into Darkness unless you're talking about that big opening where Kirk is talking to Spock about using Khan to get on to the Vengeance?

also I never noticed but the USS Nog (Eisenberg-class) remind me of the Hammerhead head corvette from Star Wars or Colonial one from BSG.
 
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20 s of the same far distance shot, 18 s of closeup of 3 different ships, but only as small pictures within the whole picture, 7 s of flying forest, 12 s flyby where we see the Nog, 10 s of the Disco approaching HQ with small ships in the background. That's hardly ship porn, and your "good fraction" is only 2%.
40 MINUTES OF NOTHING BUT SHIP SHOTS WHILE THE TMP THEME BLARES
I initially thought that, but then I realized it was multi-level and more resembled a redressed S31 starship bridge, but digitally expanded in size. At least, that’s how it looks to me. :shrug:
It is in fact the Shenzhou/Section 31 set threecycled, at least sccording to Trekcore who have comprison photos on twitter.

It did make me think of the plaza from Into Darkness/Beyond too. And after seeing the walkway and ground build itself around them as they walked through, I imagine it's even more unsafe when they have a power failure:lol:
 
But the dialogue only touches upon Burnham's side of things. So the likely scenario is that she did hold that belief - but was (gasp!) wrong!

The problem with that scenario is that Vance affirms her statement by saying "It's still out there." He didn't say "Its namesake is still out there." Which makes me believe that the writers intended the ship to be from the 23rd century.

I really wonder what Owo meant with "new Constitution" here. I mean, she could at least theoretically read the name off the hull even when the audience really can't, and thus simply be saying that this ship is a new one and named Constitution. But she's also expressing awe from the get-go there, and perhaps actually saying "So this is what they have for a Constitution class nowadays!", feeling that this ship, the arguably biggest and baddest of the lot, enjoys comparable special status.

I think she was familiar with the NCC-1700 Constitution (perhaps it was even her first assignment), and she was just expressing the fact that there's a new one. Perhaps it was the only ship they saw which had a namesake with a ship from their era.

Which shows that the masters of the bridge display props were in agreement with the people who created the advanced interior of the Tikhov, quite regardless of what the writers may have been thinking.

Agreed.

But the writers being of a different opinion sounds extremely unlikely here, too, as they would have been the ones in charge of writing things like "big hero ship tractors in small seed vault ship" or "fantastic and futuristic archives gadgetry gives Burnham access to the McGuffin jar", even if artistic details would have been the purview of others.

I doubt that. The writers are just responsible for writing the story. Even if they added such things as the description of the ship or descriptions of the controls, the VFX people and set designers are not necessarily going to follow that. It's like the Prometheus in the DS9 episode "Second Sight." The writers intended it to be a small scout ship with a small crew, but the VFX people ended up using the Nebula class model.

And in that special way where the registry also gets repeated. Although Tikhov is our very first true and explicit example of the ship's mission also being perpetuated: we know nothing about other Voyagers besides Janeway's, or of other Yamatos, and the assorted Enterprises were all over the map.

Again, that's assuming that the Tikhov we saw wasn't the same ship that Burnham described as a 23rd century vessel.
 
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