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Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

This show has a really dark sense of humor at times.

There's a difference between a dark sense of humor and a bad sense of humor.
I found the child eating the frog’s eggs to be somewhat sad but you can’t call them “babies”—they weren’t—they were unfertilized eggs. But from a sentient species which is what makes it awkward.

They're not the same as "babies" or fetuses, yes.

But they clearly were saved for procreation and were extremely rare and precious and the frog lady character was DEEPLY emotionally invested in their safety to literally SAVE HER FAMILY (if not species....it was a little muddy on that point!)

So, ha ha ha. Let's make FOUR jokes about BY killing them! Ho ho ho! That puppet is so adorable, it's funny that it's destroying her family's future.
 
The human equivalent is secretly giving a woman birth control when she’s on the verge of menopause and trying desperately to conceive.

It would be like destroying the eggs you froze to help overcome your conception difficulties and it was literally you're ONLY CHANCE to have a baby and someone's kid was just throwing them in a blender and laughing.
 
We throw chickens into a blender and out come chicken nuggets. We've seen a monkey lizard on a spit, watched by his buddy in a cage. We've had Tusken raiders and Banthas eaten by a giant sand dragon. Baby Yod has been eating things alive since episode 1.

It's a puppet! None of those creatures exist. Set panties to unbunch.
 
Anakin killed children, everybody got up in arms. The Child does it and it's adorable.

Are babies routinely the subject of these "comic deaths"? Yeah, didn't think so.

They weren't fertilized. Therefore, they weren't children. No babies. Not even embryos.

How much different is that than someone swallowing instead of spitting? Besides the obvious difference between egg and sperm...


"First?" I'd like to introduce you to a little movie called The Empire Strikes Back.

Does this episode either retcon or establish that sublight speed is still a form of FTL? The Falcon had an inoperable hyperdrive but still made it from Hoth to Bespin. Razor Crest was prevented from using hyperdrive and had to go sublight from Tattooine to a different planet in another star system. Is this just some nomenclature issue where they call it sublight but that's not what it really is?
 
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Does this episode either retcon or establish that sublight speed is still a form of FTL? The Falcon had an inoperable hyperdrive but still made it from Hoth to Bespin. Razor Crest was prevented from using hyperdrive and had to go sublight from Tattooine to a different planet in another star system. Is this just some nomenclature issue where they call it sublight but that's not what it really is?

Whether it's Star Wars or Star Trek, the ships always travel at the speed of plot.
 
For those that seem confused, no they were not the same spiders from 'Rebes'. They were however clearly inspired by the same source: an unused Ralph McQuarrie concept painting created for Empire.
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Most likely they are related though. A very hardy and adaptable genome regardless; one on a dried up ocean bed world, another on an ice planet.

Interesting how this episode combined three of the more prominent environs from Empire into one locations. The (unused) Dagobah spiders, the ice caves of Hoth, and I guess the clouds of Bespin? All it was missing was an asteroid.

Yes the baby eating the unfertilized eggs was messed up. No I don't have a problem with it because it's a valid story choice because his species is clearly both carnivorous and predatory as evidenced by the pointed teeth, grasping claws on all four limbs and large binocular vision eyes. He's just a child doing what comes naturally and it's up to Dyn to correct his behaviour. Also, this is not the first evidence we've seen of little Frogwai being a trouble child. Exposing a formative mind to all that violence is bound to have consequences...plus whatever kind of life he had prior was probably as a "specimen". Behavioural difficulties are to be expected.

Not sure I'm crazy about them trying to address the whole travelling between systems at sublight thing from Empire. I mean I know it happened and we're stuck with it, but I think the more they pull on that thread the less sense it's going to make.
 
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If you want to point out that every single thing in the show is fake, why are you watching it? Forgive me for being invested in the reality of the show.

Moron.
Easy on the name calling..........you can make a point and not be childish. You are the one stating it was "both disgusting and horrifying" for you to watch.
 
"First?" I'd like to introduce you to a little movie called The Empire Strikes Back.

From the pre-Disney era.

At least in that case (1) we know H & C are proficient starship mechanics and thus it's conceivable they could cobble together a one-shot workaround for a single jump, and (2) no "DEEZ EGGS!" plot device.

( But yes, TLJ was so determined to copy its template TESB that it fell right into the same plot hole. )

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The Falcon had an inoperable hyperdrive but still made it from Hoth to Bespin. Razor Crest was prevented from using hyperdrive and had to go sublight from Tattooine to a different planet in another star system. Is this just some nomenclature issue where they call it sublight but that's not what it really is?

Or maybe Tatooine's whole sector is actually a Firefly system or something? :shrug:

Where's a wormhole when you need one?

This would all make sense if the Mandalorian's ship had cryo-pods and the next episode started with "FIVE YEARS LATER..."

You really only need one cryo-pod, they could all cram into it in a sort of group snuggle.

Fingers crossed!

Does this episode either retcon or establish that sublight speed is still a form of FTL?

I think it's fairly clear what it establishes.

The lack of intelligent life on a certain planet in the Sol system.
 
Yeah, but they were her last chance to have kids.

We battery farm birds so that we can eat their last chance to have kids with a nice crispy slice of pig that never had a chance to have kids, washed down with a nice cold drink of something that was supposed to nuture a creature's kids, but you've got it instead.

If Star Wars has taught us anything, it's that there's always a bigger creature lurking looking for it's lunch.

And for the blessed wee baby Yoda, he's been wherever he'll be retconned to have been over the last 50 years, but now he's out in the world and seeing people being dispatched left, right and centre, by droids, by his adopted daddy, and when he saw that Jawa guy fall to his death, tricked by Mando, he just pfffed. He's not doing anything wrong, he's just getting his nutrients.
 
Now that I think about it some more, it makes no sense she didn’t notice any were missing.

She really didn’t count them?

Well, she seemed to be laying more in the hot spring (or doing something with them). Maybe a certain amount of loss in travel was expected. I am surprised Din didn't put a padlock on it after the first time. Tie a knot around the latch, something.

I do kind of hope this is setting up a subplot where Din actually has to raise Baby Yoda, and not just let him get slowly warped by watching constant murder. It's not the first time the kid has had problems with his behavior (remember when he though Cara was hurting Din when they were arm-wresting and the kid choked her?).

( But yes, TLJ was so determined to copy its template TESB that it fell right into the same plot hole. )

No, it didn't. There's absolutely no reason to think that the Resistance ships didn't intentionally come out of hyperspace in the same system as Crait, since that's where they were going. What, you think they just stopped the ships in the middle of nowhere because somebody had to go to the bathroom?

As for why they didn't just pop out in orbit, but several AUs away, that probably is solved by another line from ESB; "The Rebels are alerted to our presence. Admiral Ozzel came out of lightspeed too close to the system." Probably wanted to get the lay of the land, make sure the old base hadn't been taken over pirates or anything.
 
Well, she seemed to be laying more in the hot spring (or doing something with them). Maybe a certain amount of loss in travel was expected. I am surprised Din didn't put a padlock on it after the first time. Tie a knot around the latch, something.

I think she was just trying to keep the eggs warm. Before she left, she had pointed to an indicator on the incubator or whatever it was that the eggs were in. She's a reptile/amphibian and needed the warmth. Her first words when Mando found her in the pool was about the temperature. Well, that was Mando's response as we really don't know what she said. He acted like he finally understood her language.

We're taught in science class that, typically, species that lay massive amounts of eggs at once do so because of the likelihood some will get eaten by predators or lost in some manner. Of course, these are not intelligent/sapient/sentient/sophont animals that are discussed in science class.

It would be like destroying the eggs you froze to help overcome your conception difficulties and it was literally you're ONLY CHANCE to have a baby and someone's kid was just throwing them in a blender and laughing.

Now this is a valid comparison I hadn't thought of.
 
So, according to some things I've read....I was supposed to know what those eggs were all about?
Am I missing something?
 
Does this episode either retcon or establish that sublight speed is still a form of FTL? The Falcon had an inoperable hyperdrive but still made it from Hoth to Bespin. Razor Crest was prevented from using hyperdrive and had to go sublight from Tattooine to a different planet in another star system. Is this just some nomenclature issue where they call it sublight but that's not what it really is?
Since the hyperdrive allows them to travel through hyperspace it might track that they have a slower, but still FTL, style system, or near lightspeed without going in to hyperspace.
 
So, according to some things I've read....I was supposed to know what those eggs were all about?
Am I missing something?

Amy Sedaris explained it when she was pitching Din on the job; the frog-woman was the last of her family, and this was her last clutch of eggs, so she needed to get them to her husband so he could fertilize them before they got too old, and traveling through hyperspace would've killed the eggs (or made them inert, I guess).
 
Amy Sedaris explained it when she was pitching Din on the job; the frog-woman was the last of her family, and this was her last clutch of eggs, so she needed to get them to her husband so he could fertilize them before they got too old, and traveling through hyperspace would've killed the eggs (or made them inert, I guess).

Ah, ok. See, that's what I got. But for some reason, I was under the impression it was a throwback to something else from Star Wars lore.
 
This is the first time that I've heard of eggs getting ruined because of Hyper Drive.

Talk about a plot device that forces them to go STL.
 
Easy on the name calling..........you can make a point and not be childish. You are the one stating it was "both disgusting and horrifying" for you to watch.

I wouldn't bet money on that.

If they're picking up where they left off, for all we know BY might just cough the eggs back up as in edible.
 
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