Somehow, Admiral Senna Tal doesn't strike me as being in the same pottymouth league as Admiral Clancey. What a breath of fresh integrity!
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x04 - "Forget Me Not"
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Another great episode for me.
Postives:
- Much Character Development
- I liked the design of the trill homeworld
- Very nice CGI, especially during the "memory" scenes
- Saru is really starting to feel like a captain to me
- I loved the dinner
Negatives:
- I did not like the entry scene, for me it just didnt fit to the rest of the episode
- They still dont know in what direction they want to develop Georgiou. In some scenes it is implied that she is the personified evil, in other scenes they want us to feel like she has a heart hidden deep down.
I've rated it 8/10
Postives:
- Much Character Development
- I liked the design of the trill homeworld
- Very nice CGI, especially during the "memory" scenes
- Saru is really starting to feel like a captain to me
- I loved the dinner
Negatives:
- I did not like the entry scene, for me it just didnt fit to the rest of the episode
- They still dont know in what direction they want to develop Georgiou. In some scenes it is implied that she is the personified evil, in other scenes they want us to feel like she has a heart hidden deep down.
I've rated it 8/10
She does. It's just someone else's and she ate it.
I've been trying to work my head around it too. Has to be something like this. I guess.
Why not both?
I don't think the personified evil would have a good heart deep down
I'm willing to accept that the Short Trek (will) never happen(ed) and just acts as a proving ground for ideas we see in Season 3. Book instead of Craft, Zora comes from the sphere data rather than 1000 years of evolution. Vadrash is already a term for the Federation, it wouldn't be the same after another 1000 years. Treat it like the original Marvel Agent Carter One shot, which was replaced in canon by the TV series.
The whole idea of Star Trek is that humanity can become better. As Spock would say about Mirror humans "They are the very flower of humanity." Hopefully even those humans can become better.
overall a decent episode i really liked the character moments and the Adira/grey scenes were
I wish they had just shown the flashback when she goes into the pool rather than the cheesy underwater scene.
The crew scenes were good though and Burnham continues to improve ( its amazing what a smile can do)
Because she is literally space Hitler
Really loved it, second only to the opener this season, an 8 from me.
I really liked the design of Trill and both plots, I also found very good that the B-plot focused on the “minor” crewmen, I think we got more development of them here than in the whole of the previous two seasons.
That said, I don’t think the two plot lines worked exceptionally well together, however I understand that the b-plot wouldn’t have worked at all in the first three episodes and I guess it wouldn’t have in the following ones either.
Only real grievance: it’s extremely convenient that Adira doesn’t remember anything of her previous lives but somehow remembers Senna Tal.
And, especially, what the hell was she doing among the inspection party in the previous episode? The whole joining and somehow ending up there timeline seems extremely contrived.
By the way, I’m liking Adira a lot, both as a character and the actor. Can’t say the same about grey so far, mostly because I can’t make out most of what he says for some reason, always have to go back and turn subtitles on.
Nice touch about Michael having a responsibility hoarding problem.
Very nice to see the caves...I haven’t seen DS9 in ten years but they really looked familiar.
I really liked the design of Trill and both plots, I also found very good that the B-plot focused on the “minor” crewmen, I think we got more development of them here than in the whole of the previous two seasons.
That said, I don’t think the two plot lines worked exceptionally well together, however I understand that the b-plot wouldn’t have worked at all in the first three episodes and I guess it wouldn’t have in the following ones either.
Only real grievance: it’s extremely convenient that Adira doesn’t remember anything of her previous lives but somehow remembers Senna Tal.
And, especially, what the hell was she doing among the inspection party in the previous episode? The whole joining and somehow ending up there timeline seems extremely contrived.
By the way, I’m liking Adira a lot, both as a character and the actor. Can’t say the same about grey so far, mostly because I can’t make out most of what he says for some reason, always have to go back and turn subtitles on.
Nice touch about Michael having a responsibility hoarding problem.
Very nice to see the caves...I haven’t seen DS9 in ten years but they really looked familiar.
By the way, having recently rewatched the fan series Hidden Frontier I couldn’t help but notice the parallel between the discussion about Grey being still Grey or not after the joining with Tal and the recurrent similar theme there in the last couple of seasons. I wonder...
It's sort of a Grey area...
Yeah, more like a stress filled Thanksgiving dinner
Adira only remembering senna does make sense if it was due to the symbiont asserting itself. Remember adira says she has been waiting for a federation ship to come along, but was that adira speaking or tal?
It's nice to know that evolving has its limits and humans are only capable of so much change.
What a beautiful episode—beautiful writing, acting, directing, music, visuals...hands down the best Star Trek episode for me since DS9 left the airwaves. I wasn’t sure about Adira last week, but fell in love with them this week. The friendship with Michael felt surprisingly sweet and genuine. I love how Michael is transforming. I feel they’re doing what the DS9 writers did when they rebooted Jadzia Dax in the second season to allow Terry Farrell’s natural warmth and charisma to shine through. From what I’ve seen in interviews, Sonequa MG is an incredibly radiant, positive and shining presence and it’s heartening to see some of that in Michael now. It doesn’t feel forced either, but a natural character development.
The episode as a whole felt healing and especially pertinent in these incredibly turbulent times. It’s sobering but I recognised myself in Detmer. I’m a trouper and rarely complain, but living with stage four cancer sucks. Lately I’ve been feeling disconnected and angry at certain people everyone around me, and watching this made me realise sometimes you have to stop and acknowledge when you’re not alright. Star Trek rarely does that. I think back to TNG’s superhuman characters who’d deal with trauma by just gazing forlornly yet stoically into the middle distance and then be fine by the next episode. That wouldn’t cut it now, and not in these times.
Anyway, I loved it and was surprisingly moved by it.
The episode as a whole felt healing and especially pertinent in these incredibly turbulent times. It’s sobering but I recognised myself in Detmer. I’m a trouper and rarely complain, but living with stage four cancer sucks. Lately I’ve been feeling disconnected and angry at certain people everyone around me, and watching this made me realise sometimes you have to stop and acknowledge when you’re not alright. Star Trek rarely does that. I think back to TNG’s superhuman characters who’d deal with trauma by just gazing forlornly yet stoically into the middle distance and then be fine by the next episode. That wouldn’t cut it now, and not in these times.
Anyway, I loved it and was surprisingly moved by it.
Good thing Michael wasn't there.
Watched it 30 mins ago, I give it a 8.5, good to see Trek confront the effects on the crew psyche and not act as if everything is normal when it is not. I am warming to the Adira character, still don't see a reason why she had to be so young, the story would still work if she was in her 20's and not just out of school.
Loved the scene when she repeats her many names...beautiful
Now why on Earth would warp going inert almost destroy a planet with billions of people on it?
Loved the scene when she repeats her many names...beautiful
Now why on Earth would warp going inert almost destroy a planet with billions of people on it?
Are your Thanksgiving dinners like that?
I guess something else happened as a consequence of the burn.
Agreed. It would probably work better, actually.
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