Hopefully they never did.
What was "The Burn" and what caused it?
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Did Dilithium explode in all Galaxy? Or only in Delta/Beta Quadrants? And if Borg did not use dilithium, they surely must now control 2/3 of the galaxy? Easy? Anyways, we'll find out. I hope normalcy is restored - regardless of whom caused this. Think about it. All ships and starbases destroyed. This is post-apocalyptic. An to rebuild all of that... it would take another century at least!
I'm surprised they don't make Synthetic Dilithium by now.
We can already make Syntheic Gasoline and other Hydro Carbon based fuels now, i's just expensive when hey aren't built at scale compared to digging it out of the ground.
We can already make Syntheic Gasoline and other Hydro Carbon based fuels now, i's just expensive when hey aren't built at scale compared to digging it out of the ground.
Or the Romulans for that matter with their black hole drives
What would add to another interesting kick-in-the-junk was that Burnham's use of a time crystal to help Discovery "illegally" leave their native point in time sent ripples across the space-time continuum that eventually culminated in its rupturing and the destruction of all dilithium.
Praxis was just the first wave that everyone thought was nothing more than simple "over-mining".
Praxis was just the first wave that everyone thought was nothing more than simple "over-mining".
Don't forget that DS9 was primarily run on Multiple Large Fusion Reactors and was able to hold itself against enemy Fleets for a while.
And some races from the Delta Quadrant have Tetryon Reactors like the CareTaker's race and Tash who made that amazing Catapult somehow was able to procure a Tetryon Reactor.
And some races from the Delta Quadrant have Tetryon Reactors like the CareTaker's race and Tash who made that amazing Catapult somehow was able to procure a Tetryon Reactor.
The Final frontier god left the planet
Since Star Trek IV they can "recrystallize" (and I assume that means effectively regenerate); existing dilithium, so yeah I don't know why it's still such a commodity after that.
A haphazardly conceived McGuffin.
Most likely. Unless they delve into exactly what caused it to happen, instead of just saying 'this is what happened, and now we're dealing with the aftermath.' People are already coming up with theories, but that presumes that the writers had the wherewithal to make this a mystery story, which I'm not at all confident they did.
Book mentions a recrystalizer, so they still exist
also
Book mentioned both Qunatum Slipstream (and the Benanite crystals) and Tetryon power cells, both things someone (I think here?) brought up as possible alternatives. Benanite is rare, and Tetryon I think he said was unstable Or something.
No mention of a artificial singularity core
No mention of a artificial singularity core
The Dilithium is used to regulate the matter/antimatter reaction. Since Romulans don't M/AM reactions as their source of power, they wouldn't need dilithium.
Michael's reaction is a bit over the top since the Federation is only a hundred years old at her point in her life. Did she actually think her government would last a thousand years? That's a little creepy.
She has an emotional reaction. I don't think its creepy just because irrational.
How would you want her to react? Like what is an appropriate level of reaction for someone who has just learned their society completely collapsed?
Also if she didn't react the way she did, you know the criticism would be that burnham didn't care and react enough. Damned if burnham does damned if burnham doesn't
She was a self-avowed “true believer”. True believers have iron willpower when they know that one thing they believe in is invincible. When that fragile carpet is pulled out from under them and the anchor chain broken, they crumble quickly.
This is an interesting idea for a season arc.
Book says that The Burn resulted in all the dilithium going boom. Which the rest of the episode seems to infer quite literally. Any ship, station or outpost with a dilithium based warp core lost core containment. Doesn't mean everybody died, some could have ejected the cores safely and made a minimum safe distance. Not to mention something like storage or transport facilities which wouldn't be part of warp cores. But yeah, that's a lot of potential boom.
But it clearly wasn't ALL the dilithium. Since the whole plot of the episode revolves around getting the stuff, it must still exist. We see Burnham boost several small crystals from the Andorian/Orion alliance. Why was some dilithium unaffected? Or has this been made since?
I do like the implication that races trying to find alternative FTL solutions has resulted in some bad things going down. The Gorn apparently tried to create artificial wormholes, and blew apart subspace across, what did he say, a couple light years? Guess they didn't have John Crichton.
It makes me wonder if we might see entire planets or cultures that have turned away from interstellar travel, or at least warp drive, in fear. Not just because of scarcity but because the disaster could happen again. Book mentions that the Federation not only couldn't explain what happened, but that, as a result, they couldn't promise people it would never happen again. Maybe some members didn't even want to try?
Book says that The Burn resulted in all the dilithium going boom. Which the rest of the episode seems to infer quite literally. Any ship, station or outpost with a dilithium based warp core lost core containment. Doesn't mean everybody died, some could have ejected the cores safely and made a minimum safe distance. Not to mention something like storage or transport facilities which wouldn't be part of warp cores. But yeah, that's a lot of potential boom.
But it clearly wasn't ALL the dilithium. Since the whole plot of the episode revolves around getting the stuff, it must still exist. We see Burnham boost several small crystals from the Andorian/Orion alliance. Why was some dilithium unaffected? Or has this been made since?
I do like the implication that races trying to find alternative FTL solutions has resulted in some bad things going down. The Gorn apparently tried to create artificial wormholes, and blew apart subspace across, what did he say, a couple light years? Guess they didn't have John Crichton.
It makes me wonder if we might see entire planets or cultures that have turned away from interstellar travel, or at least warp drive, in fear. Not just because of scarcity but because the disaster could happen again. Book mentions that the Federation not only couldn't explain what happened, but that, as a result, they couldn't promise people it would never happen again. Maybe some members didn't even want to try?
Even the Peacekeepers with Scorpius liquified people by accident. It isn't a good idea.
As long as the explanation for the Burn is sound, then everything else we can have fun with. But if it’s something so out of line from Star Trek like the spore drive was, then I am not sure I would like it. Regardless, it does look like they’ll spend time finding the cause of the burn, and exploring other Worlds. So we should get a better idea of what happened to the Federation and to other Powers.
Finding out what happened seems to be a major arc in the season
She is so affected by her arrival there that she needs to tell herself to get up and to walk, and needs to tell herself her name and number just to ground herself. I found that way over the top, actually. Then 'her' organization is called 'ghosts', and she learns it mostly collapsed. I think she has the same feelings for the UFP that Satie had: The most remarkable institution ever conceived. As a fan, I agree
