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The Fate of Enterprise, CV-65.

Last I heard it was launched into space to track down Khan Noonien Singh in some anime series.
Space Aircraft Carrier CVN-65
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Probably
 
America could been a total non-participant in WW3 and would most likely of had it's economy severly affected.
 
America could been a total non-participant in WW3 and would most likely of had it's economy severly affected.

The way I see it, America most likely was one of many by the mid-century, more so than the Fresh Blood of WW1 and then the big safe deposit of the Allies in WW2. By the Eugenics Wars there are other powers, by WW3 the US is probably surrounded by peers of equivalent economic and industrial might on their own side, fighting peer-level enemies in ECON. Thus whatever local regional peer was under threat probably dealt with it therein, with everyone else chipping in how they could: sort of like, maybe, a Saudi-Iranian war with the Iranians in ECON and the Saudis with the NUN? with both sides with modern tech and capabilities, Israel vs Syria, Colombia vs Venezuela, etc.... There's musings of oil conflict over a (probably much warmer) Antartctica and out in taklamakan in Xinjiang/the Tarim Basin...maybe a Turkestan movement that got out of hand?

And then in 2053, the nukes fly, after decades of proxy wars and the New Cold War. It's almost topical.
 
Is that what this thread is about?

Gee, I've been wondering what happened to Enterprise Rent-A-Car during the Eugenics war...

:shrug:
A genetically augmented O.J. Simpson broke free from his Hertz Rental Cart spokesman contract and joined Enterprise instead, changing his course in life. His friendship with Leslie Nielson on the set of Forbidden Planet V: The Final Forbidden helped him overcome many inner demons. He spoke out about the growing Khanate during his Academy Awards acceptance speech. The subsequent libel lawsuit brought against him was considered the trial of the century. His corporate sponsor's support of him led to the Eugenics Wars but also doomed the company. In its honor, the first Earth starliner, XCV-330 was named Enterprise: We'll Pick You Up.
 
America could been a total non-participant in WW3 and would most likely of had it's economy severly affected.
We know American got bombed in WW3. That was a plot point in the Disco episode New Eden.
We don’t know in canon but in the Enterprise novels it’s in a museum. Archer meets Tucker covertly in it.
No, completely wrong. The Enterprise CV-65 was never featured in any Enterprise novels. According to Memory Beta the only time it was featured in any novels was the TNG novel Debtor's Planet which established it had been destroyed in the Eugenics Wars in 1996. The museum ship Archer and Trip meet covertly in in the Enterprise Rise of the Federation novel A Choice of Futures was in fact the NX-01.

If you're going to insist on bringing information from the novels into canon discussions, you could at least trouble yourself to post accurate information from the novels.
 
Nope, separate.
"Space Seed", "Assignment: Earth" and others point to the Eugenics War and WWIII being the same, and in the 1990's*. It was First Contact that made it clear they were seperate events.


*that said another episode said Earth avoided nuclear war altogether...
 
Based my position on the original TOS - ENT timeline, not the STD universe.
Since Lily mistakes the Borg attack for one by the ECON, it would appear that such attacks did happen in North America.
First Contact said:
LILY: Come on.
COCHRANE: Good night Eddie. (to Lily) ...Go home.
LILY: You're gonna regret this tomorrow.
COCHRANE: Well, what I think you should have learned about me by now is that I don't have regrets. ...Come on, Lily, one more round.
LILY: Z, you've had enough. I'm not going up in that thing with a drunken pilot.
COCHRANE: But I sure as hell's not going up there sober.
LILY: What is that?
COCHRANE: That is the constellation Leo.
LILY: No, that.
(there is a bright orbiting light which suddenly fires two photon bolts towards the settlement)
LILY: It's the ECON.
COCHRANE: After all these years?
(more photon bolts)
LILY: We've got to get to the Phoenix!
(another photon bolt)
COCHRANE: To hell with the Phoenix.
 
We know American got bombed in WW3. That was a plot point in the Disco episode New Eden.

No, completely wrong. The Enterprise CV-65 was never featured in any Enterprise novels. According to Memory Beta the only time it was featured in any novels was the TNG novel Debtor's Planet which established it had been destroyed in the Eugenics Wars in 1996. The museum ship Archer and Trip meet covertly in in the Enterprise Rise of the Federation novel A Choice of Futures was in fact the NX-01.

If you're going to insist on bringing information from the novels into canon discussions, you could at least trouble yourself to post accurate information from the novels.
Yeah apologies. I got the ships mixed up. I was thinking of the XCV-330. The Ring ship. That’s where Trip and Archer meet.
 
Yeah apologies. I got the ships mixed up. I was thinking of the XCV-330. The Ring ship. That’s where Trip and Archer meet.
NO IT WAS NOT.

As I already stated, Archer and Trip have their clandestine meetings aboard the NX-01. I have the book right in front of me as I type this post. Page 37 of A Choice of Futures even states "Smithsonian Orbital Annex, Enterprise NX-01 exhibit." There is no mention of the XCV-330 AT FUCKING ALL.

Futhermore, a consultation with Memory Beta reveals that the XCV-330 has never been featured in any novels AT FUCKING ALL. In fact, the only novels it's even been mentioned in are Ex Machina and Watching the Clock

Seriously, I do know what I'm talking about. I know you frequently bluster and accuse others of being lazy and/or stupid, but is it possible it's not bluster? Do you actually presume others to be lazy and stupid? You would do well never to confuse me with being either from now on.
 
NO IT WAS NOT.

As I already stated, Archer and Trip have their clandestine meetings aboard the NX-01. I have the book right in front of me as I type this post. Page 37 of A Choice of Futures even states "Smithsonian Orbital Annex, Enterprise NX-01 exhibit." There is no mention of the XCV-330 AT FUCKING ALL.

Futhermore, a consultation with Memory Beta reveals that the XCV-330 has never been featured in any novels AT FUCKING ALL. In fact, the only novels it's even been mentioned in are Ex Machina and Watching the Clock

Seriously, I do know what I'm talking about. I know you frequently bluster and accuse others of being lazy and/or stupid, but is it possible it's not bluster? Do you actually presume others to be lazy and stupid? You would do well never to confuse me with being either from now on.

I think the wording was sloppy, but @thribs was acknowledging that it was the NX-01.
 
NO IT WAS NOT.

As I already stated, Archer and Trip have their clandestine meetings aboard the NX-01. I have the book right in front of me as I type this post. Page 37 of A Choice of Futures even states "Smithsonian Orbital Annex, Enterprise NX-01 exhibit." There is no mention of the XCV-330 AT FUCKING ALL.

Futhermore, a consultation with Memory Beta reveals that the XCV-330 has never been featured in any novels AT FUCKING ALL. In fact, the only novels it's even been mentioned in are Ex Machina and Watching the Clock

Seriously, I do know what I'm talking about. I know you frequently bluster and accuse others of being lazy and/or stupid, but is it possible it's not bluster? Do you actually presume others to be lazy and stupid? You would do well never to confuse me with being either from now on.

*Deep Cleansing Breaths: In with the Butterflies, Out with the Bees*

Seriously, take a step back and come back in a better space. Any more of this and you’ll get a warning.

Thanks
 
NO IT WAS NOT.

As I already stated, Archer and Trip have their clandestine meetings aboard the NX-01. I have the book right in front of me as I type this post. Page 37 of A Choice of Futures even states "Smithsonian Orbital Annex, Enterprise NX-01 exhibit." There is no mention of the XCV-330 AT FUCKING ALL.

Futhermore, a consultation with Memory Beta reveals that the XCV-330 has never been featured in any novels AT FUCKING ALL. In fact, the only novels it's even been mentioned in are Ex Machina and Watching the Clock

Seriously, I do know what I'm talking about. I know you frequently bluster and accuse others of being lazy and/or stupid, but is it possible it's not bluster? Do you actually presume others to be lazy and stupid? You would do well never to confuse me with being either from now on.
It’s in Enterprise: Rise of the Federation - Patterns of Interference. On page 36.
January 8, 2166
Smithsonian Orbital Annex,
Enterprise XCV-330 exhibit

“This seems to be my week for tours,” Malcolm Reed said as he led T’Pol through the enviropod of the first UESPA ship named Enterprise. The cylindrical pod was the approximate size and shape of a midsized passenger shuttle, through the cramped, submarine-like interior...

I like the idea of the CV ship being destroyed in the Eugenics War. They do have a issue in the shows of just using our history, even though, we know it is drastically different for stuff we learned in TOS, TNG etc.
 
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