Sounds like someone is very comfortable throwing around the term "gobshite" without examining their own behavior.
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Sounds like someone is very comfortable throwing around the term "gobshite" without examining their own behavior.
Also sounds like "an all-new Jedi knight defeated Vader & the Emperor" would definitely have made the headlines.
Just google "Jedi" and click on the "news" tab!
Its been established in several cartoon series now that the Galaxy is not a big a place as one might think. With the hyperdrive you can cross the known galaxy in a relatively short amount of time, and some planets hold interest with many people due to various hyperspace routes.
Given how those series were developed, it would make sense that, as the seasons progress, the wider galaxy will unfold. The situation will be larger, and the number of known people or places visited will increase. With the inclusion of more known Mandaloreans (such as Bo-Katan and Sabine Wren) as well as Ahsoka Tano, perhaps Commander Rex and/or Boba Fett (should he live) it becomes more likely that the Mandalorean will get caught up in things related to people or places we know. The fate of Mandalore itself is a question. But also there are remaining questions from Star Wars: Rebels that can be explored in the aftermath of the Galactic Civil War. Also, since there are remains of the Empire out there as warlords and the trail of the eventual First Order is a thing, it is entirely possible we might encounter a certain blue skinned Grand Admiral...and the Jedi he was last seen with. Much like Star Wars: Rebels explored some of the aftermath and characters from Star Wars: The Clone Wars in later seasons.
Given how those series were developed, it would make sense that, as the seasons progress, the wider galaxy will unfold. The situation will be larger, and the number of known people or places visited will increase. With the inclusion of more known Mandaloreans (such as Bo-Katan and Sabine Wren) as well as Ahsoka Tano, perhaps Commander Rex and/or Boba Fett (should he live) it becomes more likely that the Mandalorean will get caught up in things related to people or places we know. The fate of Mandalore itself is a question. But also there are remaining questions from Star Wars: Rebels that can be explored in the aftermath of the Galactic Civil War. Also, since there are remains of the Empire out there as warlords and the trail of the eventual First Order is a thing, it is entirely possible we might encounter a certain blue skinned Grand Admiral...and the Jedi he was last seen with. Much like Star Wars: Rebels explored some of the aftermath and characters from Star Wars: The Clone Wars in later seasons.
True, but look how Luke's story spread at the end of The Last Jedi. All he did there was stand up to the First Order. Compare that with blowing up a Death Star and defeating Darth Vader and the Emperor.
Just because Luke's name may very well be known across the galaxy, it doesn't automatically mean he's easy to find or that Mando would automatically know who he is or his links to the Jedi.
The intent of my post was a genuine apology. Looking at it now, I see it could be seen as less than such.
Yeah, tall tales, like I said. Doesn't give any clue as to where to find him, or if he was even real. I mean in the real story he took a barrage of heavy blaster fire and walked out without so much a speck of dirt on him, took a lightsaber to the chest and then vanished into thin air...so who knows how nuts the exaggerated version of that story is!
Plus the storytelling in the ST is pretty piss poor, so not a great point of comparison.
Anyway, that's one of probably dozens of stories out there about Jedi heroes real and fictional. There's probably some stories of Ezra and Kanan still knocking around with no hint as to whether they were ever real or even still alive.
It seems simple to us since as the audience we're in possession of the facts. In-universe characters are not.
Well it is and it isn't. Yes you can get from one side of the galaxy to the other in a matter of hours, but there are a LOT of potential destinations. Literally millions of inhabited systems, a lot of them uncharted, and once you get off the main hyperlanes, jump calculations and routes become a lot more involved, which takes more time and eats more fuel. The trick is knowing where to go.
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Also a good point. Even if everyone knew about Skywalker the whole Jedi connection wasn't as well known. Still doesn't sit well with me that 20 years before ANH the jedi were around in full force and they had been around for generations but after a few decades they were already myth.
The First Order probably blamed the whole thing on Death stick hallucinations.
Yeah, nobody really seems to know about the Jedi after the war with the Empire, so I doubt most people are even aware Luke was a Jedi. If people know his name, he's probably just known as the Rebel who killed Vader, and probably not as a Jedi.
I could see him leaving if Din does hand him over to some Jedi, and we then got a The Jedi & The Child spinoff.
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Everyone in the galaxy would know that the fall of the Emperor was due to a new Jedi Knight.
The New Republic would have blasted that info everywhere.
I am trying to remember if the Rebel Alliance and later New Republic did heavy PR stuff with the Heroes of Yavin and that they had a Jedi take out the first Death Star and latter defeat the Emperor on the Second Death Star? I know they had to fight through the heavy Imperial propaganda to even get out that either Death Star was destroyed (or even existed) and that the Emperor was dead (I don't know how public the likes of Darth Vader was to the general public....Palatine being a Sith Lord was basically a state secret, right?)
Pretty much. Those in his inner circle knew, though to those that weren't Sith cultists it didn't really matter. The Sith would have been even less well understood than the Jedi and after a millennia those that know the name at all either associate it with myths, fairy tales or obscure historical curiosities. It'd be like someone today claiming to be a Celtic Pagan. Most would just shrug, because who cares?
I think the existence of "Darth Sidious" was a secret less out of a desire to keep people from knowing he was a Sith specifically, and more to just surround Palpatine's actual appearance and activities in secrecy. He wasn't exactly an "Emperor of the People" and hardly ever appeared in public, with most public imagery of him being heavily doctored.
Similarly the existence of Vader wasn't exactly a state secret either, but the paranoid and secretive nature of the inner goings on of any totalitarian regime means they very little information about him got out beyond the upper echelons. Any military personnel that dealt with him personally (and lived) probably knew better than to gossip between the ranks.
Ironically, the Rebel Alliance probably knew more about both of them than the average citizen, though I suspect a lot of that was kept secret by them too. There's always the problem that if they let on everything they know, then it'll get back to ISB and then come questions like "how did they know that?" and "who could possibly have that information?" and suddenly Bail and by extension Leia's parentage are at risk of exposure.
As for rebel propaganda; they did publish an art book a few years back featuring just this and while there are some images featuring Vader, most of it is squarely focused on x-wing pilots and a few about Leia. IIRC nothing about Luke specifically or even the Jedi in general. It makes sense since the Jedi were vilified by both sides by the end of the Clone Wars and making the son on General Skywalker the poster boy for the Alliance would probably alienate the factions that were either former separatists or anti-war republic loyalists.
I also like to think that Mon and perhaps even Leia nixed the idea out of concern for painting an even bigger target on Luke's back. There's probably still a very large bounty on the head on any suspected Jedi, and thanks to Kanan and Ezra the Rebellion have had some experience with Jedi in the ranks. The last thing they need is the Inquisitorius making things even more complicated for all concerned.
I agree, didn't the Jedi protected the Republic for about 30000 years?
But when ANH was made the history of the Star Wars universe wasn't thought out
Obi-Wan says "for over a thousand generations" regarding the Jedi being guardians of the Republic. So it starts out rather nebulous to begin with.
According to this site (SCIENCE!), the average length of a generation is roughly 25 years. That's assuming we're only taking into account an average human lifespan, and not the potentially super-long or super-short lifespans of the thousands of other non-human beings that reside in the SWU. So, yeah, could be upwards of 25,000 to 30,000 years. That's a long flippin' time.
I thought I was remembering correctly with the 25 years mark. So, yeah, that's a long freaking time, and then in 20 years people going "Jedi who?" is rather odd, to say the least.
After thinking about it more I think Luke and his Jedi connection should be well known. Look at Rey, she lived on a backward planet and she knew who he was. Fin too didn't know Luke but when Han is telling them that Luke went to train new Jedi they aren't asking what a Jedi is. They thought the Jedi were stories but they knew them. Surely a Bounty Hunter who travels planet to planet would have heard.
Rey thought Luke was a myth, and she had no idea Han Solo was a General in the Alliance, much less that he was Luke's brother in-law. Hardly a font of accurate, up-to-date information.
So yes, she'd heard of him in the same way that I've heard of Robin Hood or King Arthur. Even if Dyn is somewhat more well informed, that's a long way from 1) believing this is a real person 2) knowing where the hell he's gotten to in the last half decade. Or 3) FINDING him.
And again, "the Legend of Luke Skywalker" such as it is is likely one among MANY such legends of surviving Jedi. Most of while are likely inaccurate at best, fabricated at worst and since he's not an audience member like us, Dyn has no way to tell fact from fiction. Just a lot of cold leads, rumours and dead ends. And even if Luke is on his list of leads, how does a wanted criminal and bounty hunter go about approaching a hero of the Rebellion and brother of one of the galaxy's most renowned senators without New Republic Security swarming all over him like flies on an incontinent bantha? I'd call that option a "last resort."
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OK, that last part was a mental image I really didn't need in my head.
Speaking of Banthas, I wonder if the one in the Season 2 trailer is an elephant like in A New Hope, or just CGI? Or maybe a combination of the two, like the orbaks in The Rise of Skywalker? I couldn't really tell for sure when I watched the trailer.
Speaking of Banthas, I wonder if the one in the Season 2 trailer is an elephant like in A New Hope, or just CGI? Or maybe a combination of the two, like the orbaks in The Rise of Skywalker? I couldn't really tell for sure when I watched the trailer.
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