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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x02 - "Envoys"

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - It was everything I wished for.

    Votes: 16 10.7%
  • 9

    Votes: 32 21.3%
  • 8

    Votes: 46 30.7%
  • 7

    Votes: 30 20.0%
  • 6

    Votes: 12 8.0%
  • 5

    Votes: 8 5.3%
  • 4

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • 2

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • 1 - I dream of better Trek.

    Votes: 4 2.7%

  • Total voters
    150
At this point the Klingon poop humor is just what this show offers. It's not how I'd roll but the show looks right and feels right and so I don't mind a slightly off-color Star Trek comedy. It's not amazing Star Trek by any stretch but it's certainly nowhere near the cringe-inducing train wreck it could have been and I once feared.
 
None of which makes her a Mary Sue. Mary Sue is a loaded and sexist term.

It is, and I'm sorry for using it. But it just really seems like this show wants to present her as this perfect/awesome/great character who is always going to be right and make sure everyone around her knows it at all times.
 
At this point the Klingon poop humor is just what this show offers. It's not how I'd roll but the show looks right and feels right and so I don't mind a slightly off-color Star Trek comedy. It's not amazing Star Trek by any stretch but it's certainly nowhere near the cringe-inducing train wreck it could have been and I once feared.

I gotta be honest. I was completely wrong about this show and am pretty fucking impressed with what they’ve done so far. It feels like Star Trek in a way I didn’t imagine it could. It is funny and has a warmth about it that I wasn’t expecting.
 
It has pretty dismal moments here and there but I don't feel any of the thudding disappointment I did with DSC. It succeeds as late 24th century Trek. It's late 24th century Trek with slapstick humor, but it's recognizable TNG Era Trek and for that I'll give CBS credit for getting a lot right that it could have gotten sigh-inducingly wrong.
 
It is, and I'm sorry for using it. But it just really seems like this show wants to present her as this perfect/awesome/great character who is always going to be right and make sure everyone around her knows it at all times.
She's far from perfect. She's very flawed. Awesome? Nah. Maybe in her own head. Great? Time will tell.
She was more than willing to take a hit on her rep to help out Boilmer. So gotta disagree.
 
She's far from perfect. She's very flawed. Awesome? Nah. Maybe in her own head. Great? Time will tell.
She was more than willing to take a hit on her rep to help out Boilmer. So gotta disagree.

Her behavior and antics caused him to feel that way on top of the entire way she treats him!
 
She's far from perfect. She's very flawed. Awesome? Nah. Maybe in her own head. Great? Time will tell.
She was more than willing to take a hit on her rep to help out Boilmer. So gotta disagree.
Indeed. I fail to see Mariner as prefect-far from it. The fact that she hasn't faced consequences means jack shit. And arrogant? Holy shit! TNG had that in spades as did Kirk from time to time. Yeah, no way I can take this criticism seriously at this point.
 
Her behavior and antics caused him to feel that way on top of the entire way she treats him!

Maybe Boimler needs to put on his big boy pants then, and show that he’s capable of more than reciting the Starfleet manual.
 
I just have to say I love this show. Had very, very low expectations but it exceeds those by a wide margin. It’s not serious but I really need this right now. Love it.
 
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