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I've did the listing stuff on 8-bit machines, rows and rows of peeks and pokes and other memory address palaver..rather unpleasant that after a few hours of work the damn machine would spit out an error.. syntax error in line 443 yada yada..
 
I'm using a Cooler Master HAF XB case which isn't really a case as such, it does have top and side panels but it's meant to be used as a test bench.. Anyway in all the years I've had it I've never bothered to try running any of my builds naked without the panels and today on a whim I did just that.

Surprisingly for my GPU which runs usually around 62 degrees during borderlands 2 now is runnig at 48 degrees without the side panels so I think I'm going to keep doing this. The front fans pull air in over the board and cards but huge drop in temps...
 
Intel slaps itself in the face.

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I'm still harvesting my dvds 3 years later.

I stop for months for reasons.

Today I bought a new 4tb hard drive and put 40 gb of dvds on it.

All of golden girls and a few other shows starting with G.

The data disappeared.

It seems that the newish file format exfat crashes semipetmenantly if you don't safely dismount the hard drive, screaming about errors and bad sectors and scan fix and too many errors to transfer files.

Once.

It took me 5 years to figure out that dismounting was even as thing.

I reformatted the external hard drive to ntfs.

So it will take 3 days for recovery software to map the hard drive, and recover the data or half a day to harvest the same 10 dvds again.

First World problems.

Hopefully it's just the file format disagreeing with me and not the hard drive itself.

But the benefit of exfat is that it works on mac and Windows without having to be clever, but who gives a poo about that if you lose all your data once a week every time you turn off your pc with out dismounting your external.

Grumble.

Sigh.
 
Moving forward, I'm guessing that seagate is making exfat their default format, sharing my horror story, before it becomes your horror story.
 
I remember dismounting from the early DOS days. In those early days, you had to physically tell it to dismount via the command line as it wasn't done automatically. I'm surprised they don't have a more seamless method in these new drives. You'd think it would be done via the drive controller.
 
I remember dismounting from the early DOS days. In those early days, you had to physically tell it to dismount via the command line as it wasn't done automatically. I'm surprised they don't have a more seamless method in these new drives. You'd think it would be done via the drive controller.

Used to have park the heads on old drives before powering down but with the advent of voice coil head actuators that requirement disappeared.

Later with USB there came the option to tell windows that you were disconnecting a USB storage or ejecting as the Windows parlance went which is still around (but I think most people don't bother with it)

From a quick read, Exfat seems to have some benefits (accessible on all major operating systems) it's a less than reliable file system.

Just checked the 4TB drive I've got connected to my system. It's a WD drive but can NTFS formatted as standard and it gets plugged and unplugged without so much as by-your-leave and and it keeps ticking.
 
Later with USB there came the option to tell windows that you were disconnecting a USB storage or ejecting as the Windows parlance went which is still around (but I think most people don't bother with it)

I think that as of Windows 10 (maybe before it even), it's gotten less important to actually tell it, and while there are certain situations where you'd still need to like if you have a camera connected, for the most part, it does a fairly good job of doing so on its own.
 
I think that as of Windows 10 (maybe before it even), it's gotten less important to actually tell it, and while there are certain situations where you'd still need to like if you have a camera connected, for the most part, it does a fairly good job of doing so on its own.


I still think it's a good practice to maintain.

They say you don't have to "eject" usb drives or any other drives you plug in but I find it's still a good practice to do that before unplugging and really a few seconds won't hurt anyone. Also why keep the option in the taskbar if you don't need it anymore anyway?
 
Like I said, It depends on what it is, but yes, it's generally a good practice. And well, some PCs and boards won't boot if you have something plugged into a USB port anyway.
 
Like I said, It depends on what it is, but yes, it's generally a good practice. And well, some PCs and boards won't boot if you have something plugged into a USB port anyway.

that would suggest there's an issue with the boot order in the bios and it's trying to boot from the USB drive.
 
that would suggest there's an issue with the boot order in the bios and it's trying to boot from the USB drive.

Not necessarily. I've had boot from USB disabled in the past, or more precisely, never had it enabled and it still wouldn't boot when having something plugged in there. It happened several times when having a media player plugged in to charge, forgetting to eject it before shutting down and still having it plugged in upon bootup. It wouldn't boot up until I unplugged it. Not that you'd want to boot from something like that anyway. Some boards are just... picky.
 
Not necessarily. I've had boot from USB disabled in the past, or more precisely, never had it enabled and it still wouldn't boot when having something plugged in there. It happened several times when having a media player plugged in to charge, forgetting to eject it before shutting down and still having it plugged in upon bootup. It wouldn't boot up until I unplugged it. Not that you'd want to boot from something like that anyway. Some boards are just... picky.

media players can get seen as storage devices which would lead to issues (remember unless it's an iPod). Media players generally appear to the PC as USB storage devices when connected hence the ability to simply click and drag files for transfer.
 
Yeah, there's that. But I've also seen it happen via a usb headset, which I assume is a bug. It will sometimes come up as a USB storage device.
 
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