It's common in sf to limit telepathy: touch, line of sight, proximity... very few can sense off planet, which makes sense, because as Douglas Adams points out, they'd be deafened otherwise.
What if TNG took place immediately after TUC?
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Trois powers were at the writers whem .. From sensing a few people, to other ships, to 1000s of miles away .. Ex. Riker on the planet in The Royele sensing him relaxed etc.
And that's an "empath" even then she could do minor telepathy mind talking to riker or mother.
So this would be the same.. Writers would write it as they need it, from a few people to Tam Elbram level many light years..
And that's an "empath" even then she could do minor telepathy mind talking to riker or mother.
So this would be the same.. Writers would write it as they need it, from a few people to Tam Elbram level many light years..
There was a TNG comic that had Picard travel back towards the end of TUC.
I picture his TMP ship not Stargazer, but a bell so type ship with an Ariel saucer and ACE nacelles from Aridas Sophia...that is as close to a Galaxy class as you could get.
And he and Kirk could work together.
I picture his TMP ship not Stargazer, but a bell so type ship with an Ariel saucer and ACE nacelles from Aridas Sophia...that is as close to a Galaxy class as you could get.
And he and Kirk could work together.
This has happened before, and will happen again.
Do you know which issue it was?publiusr said:
It's an interesting thought exercise, I think the year the show is written in real life has more impact on the series than the in universe year. The Enterprise wouldn't be a galaxy class instead the Enterprise-B might be something closer to the refit version we got in Generations, I think most of the concepts from TNG/Phase II would have made it into the show. If there is a Worf character he'd have a different backstory and the characters reaction to him would be very different and might make form some good episodes. Most early TNG plots were adaptations of unused 'Star Trek II' scripts with the names changed so I think the planet of the week storylines would end up being mostly the same.
^This. The show would still have been a product of the late 1980s and the ideas Roddenberry had at the time what Star Trek should be. So it would have been largely the same show with a few details different, especially around Worf. I think I read somewhere that he was originally conceived as some sort of "Klingon Marine" stationed at a Federation Starship, maybe that would have been his basis in this version.
It's also worth noting that TUC is from 1991, when TNG was already in its 4th season, so it's basically impossible to have a TNG that takes place right after TUC. Early TNG just worked under some vague premise that the Klingons weren't enemies anymore, with no mention on why or how.
But I guess this works under the premise that TUC came out in 1986/87 and served as the setup/sort of pilot for TNG (well I certainly wouldn't mind a timeline where TFF never existed
)Really even the ship and the Uniforms could have been the same, since they'd both be the cutting edge of Starfleet and be designed for the upcoming era of peace and such.
What would have likely been very different would be both the Klingon and Romulan politics plots later on in the show.
You're talking about IDW's Star Trek The Last Generation a comic miniseries which starts off in the 24th century of an alternate timeline where the Federation has been conquered by the Klingons. The TNG characters end up meeting up and eventually head back in time to TUC, since that's the point of divergence for the timelines.
If TNG was late 23rd century and not mid 24th century........I'm pretty sure the differences would be extremely superficial.
The writers and producers would still have been the same and likely would have charted a very similar/same course as what we saw in 1987. Sure, some of the window dressing would have been different, but that stuff doesn't materially alter the foundation of a show.
I've always maintained, despite some fans intense passion to the contrary, that the "era" that the shows take place in is virtually meaningless, unless you REALLY care about aesthetics and random name changes to standard Trek technology.
The writers and producers would still have been the same and likely would have charted a very similar/same course as what we saw in 1987. Sure, some of the window dressing would have been different, but that stuff doesn't materially alter the foundation of a show.
I've always maintained, despite some fans intense passion to the contrary, that the "era" that the shows take place in is virtually meaningless, unless you REALLY care about aesthetics and random name changes to standard Trek technology.
TOS does depict a different culture /society, certainly in Starfleet.. Referring to the sexism. Many fans want to dismiss this, or explain it away, owing to it not lining up with current culture. But TOS and TNG etc, are different in that regard.
Starfleet in ENT is pretty unprofessional and lax, the captain just seems to roam arould following personal whims, with his superiors blessings. With the rare exceptions.
It would have been better (imho) if TPTB had made more of the possibilities to show even more distinctly different time periods, equipment and cultures than the fews we got.
That has more to do with when the shows were made than when they take place. A TNG show taking place a second after "Turnabout Intruder" would still reflect the 1980's while still using the tropes borrowed from TOS
Wasn't that the mission? Explore, contact and catalog.
It would be much less believable for Picard to be such a different kind of captain than Kirk and, indeed, the writers making the series really soon after the end of Kirk era would suggest they mostly want a Kirk continuation if not clone. Which I think would have been a much less interesting character and show.
You would just have Captain William (or Jonathan) Riker or Piker and a few stories/mild arc of that he's *too* bold and impetuous and needs to be more diplomatic for the new era he's in and he would be able to adjust. I would imagine you would also see a woman only as the pilot or maybe engineer, an android also in a lower-ranked position (or maybe actually discovered by the crew and joining as a civilian), there very likely would not be any counselor. The writers would probably also want to play up the drama of showing the Klingons as not necessarily trustworthy, still factions that are more hostile/antagonistic and fluctuate in power within the Klingon Empire, at least until near the end of the show.
You would just have Captain William (or Jonathan) Riker or Piker and a few stories/mild arc of that he's *too* bold and impetuous and needs to be more diplomatic for the new era he's in and he would be able to adjust. I would imagine you would also see a woman only as the pilot or maybe engineer, an android also in a lower-ranked position (or maybe actually discovered by the crew and joining as a civilian), there very likely would not be any counselor. The writers would probably also want to play up the drama of showing the Klingons as not necessarily trustworthy, still factions that are more hostile/antagonistic and fluctuate in power within the Klingon Empire, at least until near the end of the show.
There would be many types of captains, not everyone is a kirk.
You would still have a Picard type who uses words not phasers. And after khitomer having a more diplomatic type in charge of the Flagship would show more willingness to talk.
You would still have a Picard type who uses words not phasers. And after khitomer having a more diplomatic type in charge of the Flagship would show more willingness to talk.
I agree that there would still be factions of Klingons who are hostile, and they would make good episodes about that.
