What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

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  1. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Spock was good as a half Vulcan, letting some of his human side through.
    Tuvok was the best full Vulcan, but Soval was also pretty good.
     
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  2. fireproof78

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    Spock and Saavik and Sarek are the best.
     
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  3. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    Tuvok and T’Pol are my favorites.
     
  4. Bad Thoughts

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    My three favorite Vulcans are Spock.
     
  5. Vger23

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    I like T'Pol and I think Tuvok is VOY's best character overall.

    That said, Spock is one of the most iconic fictional characters ever created. I'm not sure it's even close.

    So yes, it's a very controversial opinion! ;)
     
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  6. Xhiandra

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    Oh, to be clear, I wasn't talking about acting, only writing. I agree that Nimoy was better than Russ.
    And yes, time helped refine Vulcans into a more believable/mature concept than in TOS, but that's largely the point: in TOS, the concept of "what a Vulcan is" was quite cartoony.
    As far as 35 years of material, though, aside from TOS, Vulcans hadn't been main characters, so the VOY writers did a great deal to shape this new view of Vulcans as extreme stoics rather than walking computers.
     
  7. Vger23

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    Spock was written only as a "walking computer?"

    I can't say I agree. I'd like to hear more.
     
  8. ananta

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    *in my best Chris Crocker voice* Leave Spock alone!!!

    Seriously though, there was never and will never be a more iconic Star Trek character. Leonard Nimoy was brilliant.
     
  9. marlboro

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    I think the writers used Spock as a crutch. It feels like they just came up with a new Vulcan super power whenever they got stuck. Inner eyelid, katra, long distance telepathy and so forth.
     
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  10. fireproof78

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    Why not? In my opinion its better than one and done abilities from unknown aliens that never show up again.
     
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  11. marlboro

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    - B & B should get a shot to redeem themselves with a mini-series. These guys did a lot of good stuff, and they shouldn't go out on TATV. Nobody to blame but themselves, but still.

    - I don't get all the Captain Pike love. I don't hate him, but after all the comments here I expected more.
     
  12. Delta Vega

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    As Vulcans go, and if we take Spock as the definitive, Nimoy's Spock, then I think so called air head Jolene Blalock did a pretty decent job as a Vulcan.
     
  13. Nyotarules

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    T'Pau was the best Vulcan - 'the air is the air'
     
  14. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    I liked the work Jolene did. Honestly, there weren't too many Vulcans I disliked until James Frain came along.
     
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    Yeah, ignoring her looks for a sec, Blalock was fine once they let her be something more than a...disapproving school teacher.

    I’ve got a new one...been re-watching DS9. And as much as I love the show (second only to TOS for me) the Winn/Dukat/Pah-Wraith storyline at the end of season 7 is terrible.
     
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    Sarek is my favorite full Vulcan, because Mark Lenard was so damn good.
     
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  17. Lord Garth

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    Controversial Opinion: I think Picard had the best first season of Star Trek.

    TNG wasn't even my favorite Star Trek series. So this isn't something I just say casually. Even when it came to DSC, I wondered, "Do I like the first season of TOS more or the first season of Discovery more?" With Picard, I wasn't even debating anything about it at all. I put its first season over both of those.

    There we are.

    EDIT: I guess my liking the first season of DSC so much is also "controversial". Even though technically I like the first season of PIC better.
     
  18. Bry_Sinclair

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    The Voyage Home is overrated.

    Troi should've been axed at the end of Season 1 (though I like the character, she never really went anywhere or did anything).

    Section 31 is a terrible plot device that has now been overused.

    Enough with the Klingons.

    The EMH is a worse character than Neelix.

    I've found my dislike of Discovery has been highly controversial and I've faced a lot of abuse simply because I don't like it--I've never told anyone they're wrong for loving it, but it doesn't work for me and because of that I've been called out for not being a "proper fan".
     
  19. Lord Garth

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    On one level, they like the character. On another level, I think they think he represents a return to what they think of The Glory Days. We'll see where actual opinions really fall when Strange New Worlds premieres.
     
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  20. NCC-73515

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    I don't think those are controversial at all - my impression is that many fans were amazed by PIC S1 and disappointed by DIS S1.