Section 31: I hope it still happens.

[FredH]

I realize I’m probably in a minority on this, but I hope the Section 31 series is still happening. I wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up being pulled, given the lukewarm-to-negative responses it seemed to bring on this board, compared to the enthusiasm (which I share!) for Strange New Worlds, plus the difficulty of making anything in the current situation. But I hope not; there’s a lot of story potential in a show whose protagonists might embody, at different times, both the dubious immoral underside of the Federation and honest attempts to protect it. Something along the lines of Spooks/MI-5, as opposed to “hero spy” shows like Alias.

(Of course I’m also just greedy, always want more Trek than less, and would have been fine with Star Trek: The Adventures of Captain Michelle Yeoh in Space Starring Michelle Yeoh in any event. Even if she never comes back from the far future, they can just clone her from stored DNA, since they knew how to do that in Enterprise.)

 

[Dukhat]

I have no interest in the Section 31 show whatsoever and I hope they reconsider producing it. The idea of a show about a secret ops organization with no oversight just bores me. And I might be in the minority, but I don’t think Michelle Yeoh is all that, and I certainly don’t like her Mirror Georgiou character, especially as a lead.

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

As a fan of The Americans, I hope it still happens, but even if they chose to use S31 within Strange New Worlds rather than giving it its own show, that'd be ok. S31 was interesting in that role in other Trek series and could be used from time to time, rather than being its own show. Pike had interesting tension with the organization from the get-go in DSC.

 

[Lord Garth]

This board has no power, thankfully. If it did, nothing would get made.

Anything anyone here likes from Star Trek in the last 20 years, doesn't matter what it is, never would've got off the ground if the more vocal posters of this board had any say in it. "But Strange New Worlds!" Even that only exists because they put DSC in the TOS Era and had Pike take command for a season. "Another prequel!" and "Fanwank!" is what led to it happening. If they had their way, we wouldn't have gotten to the point where anyone would even be demanding SNW in the first place.

 

[Cyrus]

I am neutral on this. I think section31 is better in small doses, like it was done on DS9.

But it can also be good in the hands of good writers. Show runners Boey and Erika wrote some of the best episodes of Discovery so they are definitely capable:
https://womenandhollywood.com/writers-to-watch-bo-yeon-kim-and-erika-lippoldt-rising-stars-of-star-trek

as to Yeoh I like her a lot. If S31 doesn’t happen then she can stay on Discovery which is definitely not a bad thing.

 

[Mudd]

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[WarpFactorZ]

Um... Pass. The Pike show can gladly take its place.

 

[dinzy]

Bring it on. I want to see people complain about it while I enjoy it.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Cannibal Space Nazi Nerdrage in 5, 4, 3...

 

[FederationHistorian]

If a Section 31 series does get produced, it should be set between ENT and SNW, and fill in the gaps in Trek history.

 

[Lord Garth]

Bring it on. I want to see people complain about it while I enjoy it.

I agree and I disagree at the same time. I'm hoping it breaks certain people of the ridiculous notion that "I need to watch it all!" With so many other Star Trek series, they can sit this one out and just focus on the others. If they'll let themselves.

Sitting out a Star Trek series is easier than they think. I know because I did it with ENT.

 

[Tenacity]

Star Trek: The Adventures of Captain Michelle Yeoh in Space

Starring Michelle Yeoh as Captain Michelle Yeoh.

If we do get a Sectiom 31 series, I would wish it to morph into something like the Mission Impossible teams, and the (early) Men in Black movie/animated series. Good people working to protect the Federation to the best of their abilities. And yes having their own set of rules.

* spoiler about STD *

Spoiler

Maybe have the actions of the Enterprise and Discovery crew at the end of STD season two weaken S31 leadership and result in a purge of S31 hardliners.

Which I think would be cool to see.

Returning S31 to the respectible organization it was during the majority of it's existance.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I'd enjoy a series centered on the demise of Section 31...

 

[ChristopherPike]

If a Section 31 series does get produced, it should be set between ENT and SNW, and fill in the gaps in Trek history.

Works for me, but you're forgetting it's a vehicle for Michelle Yeoh's Georgiou character.

 

[Tosk]

I kind of hope it quietly goes away, but I'm not against the idea in general.

If I had me druthers, it'd be a show that has no direct ties to any other specific Trek show. No returning characters at all.

 

[Lord Garth]

Given that it's going to be a spin-off of DSC and they've said they're not going back, I wonder if it would actually take place in the 32nd Century? If it does, then Tyler won't be in it. (Thank God) And maybe people will be less outraged because if it doesn't take place in the 23rd Century or in the 24th/25th Century, then the Section 31 we see (no matter how it is) wouldn't actually be part of what most fans think of as "their" Federation. It'll be part of that "other" Federation, assuming it still exists, in the Distant Future. I get the feeling the V'Draysh will be pretty different.

 

[Visitor1982]

Not interested in Section31 at all. And, sorry to say, I don't think Michelle Yeoh is such a great actress. I'd rather have Starfleet Academy or a follow up to Enterprise about the Birth of the Federation in the style of The West Wing.

 

[Angry Fanboy]

I can't say I've got any interest in a Section 31 show personally - the concept is fine for a few episodes but multiple seasons of it? Not for me.

Also (possibly an unpopular opinion) I don't really get the fuss/adoration for Michelle Yeoh - I can't see her as a series lead. I don't find her particularly enjoyable to watch.

 

[FederationHistorian]

Starring Michelle Yeoh as Captain Michelle Yeoh.

If we do get a Sectiom 31 series, I would wish it to morph into something like the Mission Impossible teams, and the (early) Men in Black movie/animated series. Good people working to protect the Federation to the best of their abilities. And yes having their own set of rules.

* spoiler about STD *

Spoiler

Maybe have the actions of the Enterprise and Discovery crew at the end of STD season two weaken S31 leadership and result in a purge of S31 hardliners.

Which I think would be cool to see.

Returning S31 to the respectible organization it was during the majority of it's existance.

I think it would be useful to see how Section 31 contrasts with Starfleet Intelligence. Especially considering Section 31 refers to a section of the Starfleet Charter.

Works for me, but you're forgetting it's a vehicle for Michelle Yeoh's Georgiou character.

From a character aspect, it makes sense to send her back in time, since prime universe Georgiou’s time in Starfleet Academy occurs around the same time of the start of the Federation-Klingon Cold War. So anything that happens between the late 22nd century – when Georgiou’s parents would likely meet – and her time as captain of the Shenzhou should be fair game if the point is to explore the Georgiou character.

However, if she’s travelling back in time, I also don’t see why she couldn’t travel forward in time to see what was suggested below:

I'd enjoy a series centered on the demise of Section 31...

 

[NCC-73515]

I also don't see the appeal of either a Disco S31 show or Yeoh in particular

I think it would be useful to see how Section 31 contrasts with Starfleet Intelligence. Especially considering Section 31 refers to a section of the Starfleet Charter.

The problem is that the Disco version is indistinguishable from the 'regular' SI.