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This is so true. The three doctors are EXACTLY the same on paper. Any differences are down to the actors.Actually, you see it as early as The Cage, and even earlier, going back to some of the navy movies that inspired Roddenberry. Roddenberry was determined to have that dynamic no matter what.
Similarly, it's very interesting to see how he transposed so many of his ideas about the characters from Phase II (and TMP) to TNG.
As an aside, I think that the minor changes implied by this post would also cover occasional appearances by various recurring minor characters, which could have included a few appearances per season by Reilly, Noel, Rand, De Salle, Mulhall etc.More chance for character development, particularly for the minor players and more hints of continuity between episodes (which was NOT in the style of the times)
So now we have Rand accompanying Kirk as standard on diplomatic missions, piloting the shuttle whenever Kirk is on board, dealing with his administration, and accompanying him as a security escort (possibly in charge of a security team if they aren't officers) on landing parties.
Wasn't the originally idea of Rand that she be a confidant of Kirk's (which didn't pan out) rather than a potential sex partner? And really where does she come off as primarily a "object of lust" over her total time on the series?Rand is closer to Kirk in age but her main purpose is still to be an object of lust.
No. From the very beginning the Doctor was planned to be the Captain's confidante. Yeoman Rand as a semi-recurring female character was an idea that just didn't pan out. It started with Yeoman Colt in "The Cage" who then became Yeoman Smith (WNMHGB) and then Rand in early TOS.Wasn't the originally idea of Rand that she be a confidant of Kirk's (which didn't pan out) rather than a potential sex partner?
Green stalks her, Kirk pines for her while drunk, drunk crewman harasses her, Charlie stalks her, Evil Kirk sexually assaults her. If you then look at the Not-Rands, whose parts were initially written with Rand in mind, Barrows is sexually assaulted and Ross is wooed by Trelane. That's a lot of lust in a few appearances. Compare that to what the yeomen otherwise contribute in those episodes.Wasn't the originally idea of Rand that she be a confidant of Kirk's (which didn't pan out) rather than a potential sex partner? And really where does she come off as primarily a "object of lust" over her total time on the series?
I've not seen many episodes of Gunsmoke but if the concept was to get to Miss Kitty and Marshall Dillane, then the ultimate goal, even if poorly implemented in the first few episodes, would have been for their relationship to mature.No. From the very beginning the Doctor was planned to be the Captain's confidante. Yeoman Rand as a semi-recurring female character was an idea that just didn't pan out. It started with Yeoman Colt in "The Cage" who then became Yeoman Smith (WNMHGB) and then Rand in early TOS.
Rand was supposed to be in the big 3; check the promo stills; didn't work out that way, though we got an elevated McCoy role, and Kelley was great.
Aha sorry it was a bit before my time. I agree that they could never have quite got there but that doesn't mean that they couldn't have developed a more nuanced relationship than the dreadfully blunt attraction we saw in a few episodes. Alfred Pennyworth is ostensibly Bruce Wayne's butler but their relationship is occasionally peeled back to reveal far more. That was more achievable for Rand. There was a great scene in NuBsg where Adama asks Duala to speak freely and she devastates him. The rank differential could have been a story tool in its own right.It's Marshall DILLON.
The relationship Dillon had with Miss Kitty was impossible to mimic with Kirk and Rand because Rand was a subordinate in Kirk's chain of command and therefore there was a power inequity that didn't exist on Gunsmoke. And on that oater the Dillon-Kitty affection/attraction was played more subtle; you knew they had a thing for each other but they never really talked about it in that "no beach to walk on" "look at my legs" way.
Kirk's ninja assassin bodyguard instead?The problem was the job. A yeoman isn't really necessary in the format. Did Kirk need an administrative assistant to organize his schedule and take care of the minor tasks? Probably. Did that character serve a necessary function on the series? Not really. Grace was fine, she just needed a different job on the ship. Had she been in engineering, or transporter chief or part of the security team, she would have been easier to write for. She had no skills other than what we saw: organizing Kirk's logs, delivering coffee to the bridge and giving Sulu a plate of celery.
I'm not a huge fan of retconning characters to that extent! TOS without McCoy? I think not lol. McCoy as Kirk's yeoman? Could have worked I guess.Kirk's ninja assassin bodyguard instead?
Or what if Rand had been the CMO?
McCoy could've been a special civilian advisor to Kirk, so he'd get to speak his mind without worrying about protocol.I'm not a huge fan of retconning characters to that extent! TOS without McCoy? I think not lol. McCoy as Kirk's yeoman? Could have worked I guess.
I do think that McCoy only just gets a pass for his insubordination because he's the ship's doctor in a way that, say, Trip Tucker shouldn't as the chief engineer.McCoy could've been a special civilian advisor to Kirk, so he'd get to speak his mind without worrying about protocol.
Also my favourite Flump.@Pauln6 exceptional use of the word "pootle"![]()
It's interesting that Grace appeared in 8 shows if she was only contracted for 7 and yet her only line was cut from the final episode. It does make you think that there was some kind of sinister moves behind the scenes to get her out the door fast, doing the minimum they had to to comply with obligations already in place.If you look at the contracts for the first year, DeForest Kelley, Grace Lee Whitney, and George Takei were all booked for 7 out of 13 shows. Kelley was paid the most out of those three ($850/show), followed by Whitney ($750/show), and then Takei ($600/show).
However, despite being paid less, Grace was usually #3 on the call sheet, with DeForest at #4.
Still, it doesn't appear to have been the intention for Rand "to be in the big 3." It's more like Rand, Sulu, and McCoy were conceived as being roughly equal in status as supporting players. Things turned out a bit differently than the intention, of course.
Would explain her presence on landing parties.Kirk's ninja assassin bodyguard instead?
Change, Rand is revealed to be a "cone head" alien, and her hair is actually quite short.Can you imagine the problems getting the massive hair to stay on a stunt double for a fight scene?
Lol! I'd rather they turned her into a McGyver character: galley lost power? Make coffee with a phaser. Transporter shorted out? Patch it with a hairpin. Warp core offline? Suspender belt and a couple of kicks from Kirk. Annoying children have stolen your communicators? Here's a spare one from my utility beehive. Ok, maybe a cross between Marge Simpson and McGyver.Would explain her presence on landing parties.Change, Rand is revealed to be a "cone head" alien, and her hair is actually quite short.
Would require some changes to Charie X.
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