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No, I don't think there was any location work at all, though there was I believe a fair amount of backlot shooting.
Half the point of the video wall seems to have been that they didn't *have* to shoot on location and thus drastically cut costs while maintaining a certain level of production value.
I read that as they went on they started to experiment more with hybrid setups; with the video walls acting as background set extension for the physical foreground elements which is why some shots make it very difficult to tell what's real and what's not.
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Oh, so they did do some backlot shooting then. I realize now when I said "location", I actually just meant exterior.
ILM created it, and as far as I know they aren't owned by Disney. At least they do effects for a lot of non-Disney productions, so I would assumed they could use it for anything.
Well yeah, basically any scene where you see pyrotechnics and/or large bodies of water probably weren't shot on their new state-of-the-art, *very expensive* interactive LCD soundstage...
ILM is a subsidiary of LF, just like Skywalker Sound, while the likes of Lucasfilm Animation, Lucas Licencing and whatever's left of Lucasarts these days are divisions within the company.
You might be confusing it with Pixar's situation; which was originally spun out from Lucasfilm's 'Graphic Group' before being sold to Steve Jobs....and later acquired by Disney as all things shall, one day...
Yeah, that does make a certain amount of sense.Well yeah, basically any scene where you see pyrotechnics and/or large bodies of water probably weren't shot on their new state-of-the-art, *very expensive* interactive LCD soundstage...
Oh, OK now I see.
Pixar was part of Lucasfilm?
Yup. Lucasfilm established the computer group back on '79 to do the R&D that eventually allowed them to do this and this.
Note that it wasn't an animation group at that point but a team of computer scientists who Lucas hired to developed the hardware and software to the point where it could be used for animation and visual effects.
Once the R&D was done LF spun the group out into a separate subsidiary company (Pixar), then sold it. Partly because 1) by that point RotJ had been out a while so the revenues were winding down, 2) with the major technological hurdles cleared it was mostly a matter of iteration and that could be done by ILM, 3) R&D projects are by their nature a money sink, and 4) GL had a divorce settlement to deal with so an injection of hard cash was required.
Looks like the idea that Temuera Morrison would just be doing VO for Boba with someone else in the suit, and maybe playing Rex in the actual flesh just got a little more credibility.
Vector and raster CG graphics have been around since the 60's, though probably the the first time it was used in a theatrical movie would probably be 'Westworld' in '73. Then you have the wireframe Death Star plans/briefing elements in 'Star Wars', Followed quickly by wireframe elements used on displays in both 'Black Hole' and 'Alien', then in '81 a crude shaded 3D human face in 'Looker' (another Michael Crichton joint.) After that you get a rapid succession of both TwoK's genesis sequence and 'Tron' both coming out in the same year, with the ships in 'The Last Starfighter' and the Jupiter effects in '2010: The Year We Make Contact' both the year after that (around about this time I think several Japanese films start getting in on the action too), followed by the stained glass knight sequence in 'Young Sherlock Holmes'.
The latter of which is what one might call the first photo-real CG character to share frame with an actor in a live action movie.
The next few years they mostly seem to focus on refining digital post processing and "morphing"; like the rapid ageing shot from 'The Last Crusade' (which was done with very early digital compositing of live action/practical elements), the 3D scanning/morphing effect used in the time-travel/dream sequence in TVH, and the transformation sequence in 'Willow'. After that the focus seems to shift into shaders and texture mapping with the 3D water effects in 'The Abyss', the T-1000 in T2 (which combined a lot of what I just mention above into a single effect) and then you get 'Jurassic Park' where everything just takes a quantum leap forwards and we're off the races...
So there's a lot of "firsts" in there, so it really depends where you want to draw the line.
Depends on how you define it.
Vector and raster CG graphics have been around since the 60's, though probably the the first time it was used in a theatrical movie would probably be 'Westworld' in '73. Then you have the wireframe Death Star plans/briefing elements in 'Star Wars', Followed quickly by wireframe elements used on displays in both 'Black Hole' and 'Alien', then in '81 a crude shaded 3D human face in 'Looker' (another Michael Crichton joint.) After that you get a rapid succession of both TwoK's genesis sequence and 'Tron' both coming out in the same year, with the ships in 'The Last Starfighter' and the Jupiter effects in '2010: The Year We Make Contact' both the year after that (around about this time I think several Japanese films start getting in on the action too), followed by the stained glass knight sequence in 'Young Sherlock Holmes'.
The latter of which is what one might call the first photo-real CG character to share frame with an actor in a live action movie.
The next few years they mostly seem to focus on refining digital post processing and "morphing"; like the rapid ageing shot from 'The Last Crusade' (which was done with very early digital compositing of live action/practical elements), the 3D scanning/morphing effect used in the time-travel/dream sequence in TVH, and the transformation sequence in 'Willow'. After that the focus seems to shift into shaders and texture mapping with the 3D water effects in 'The Abyss', the T-1000 in T2 (which combined a lot of what I just mention above into a single effect) and then you get 'Jurassic Park' where everything just takes a quantum leap forwards and we're off the races...
So there's a lot of "firsts" in there, so it really depends where you want to draw the line.
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So Timothy Olyphant might be playing the guy who has Boba's armour, Cobb Vanth, from the Aftermath books.
No confirmation he is Cobb, just that he's filmed scenes wearing the armour.
So Timothy Olyphant might be playing the guy who has Boba's armour, Cobb Vanth, from the Aftermath books.
No confirmation he is Cobb, just that he's filmed scenes wearing the armour.
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Yeah, if they were going to bring someone over from the books, I would think they would go for a character from a more popular book. Somebody like Rae Sloane or Vi Moradi seem like a lot more likely candidates than Cobb Vanth to make the crossover from page to screen.
I didn't realize computer graphics in movies went back that far.
Well right now Cobb is the only canon character that might have Boba's armour. However Mando is 5 years after the Aftermath books took place so something could have happened.
Also I doubt they care about the popularity of the material the character came from. They can just briefly explain the character's backstory in the show.
Also I doubt they care about the popularity of the material the character came from. They can just briefly explain the character's backstory in the show.
Having Cobb Vanth would mean explaining who the hell Cobb Vanth is and why the hell he's wearing Boba's armour, and since Cobb Vanth is a nothing character from an unpopular book and that nobody cares about Cobb Vanth I highly doubt Cobb Vanth will be on the show.
Given that we've also seen reports of Temuera's casting; a much more likely scenario is that Olyphant will be playing Boba Fett physically, with Morrison providing the VO. Indeed the recent episode of 'Disney Gallery' made a point to emphasise that Dyn Djarin is played by three different actors, so it's hardly unprecedented. Hell, Temuera is the only actor ever to have played a Fett both in the suit and as the voice!
As for how he got his armor back; as you say it's been 5 years, anything could have happened. Like say Boba shot Vanth and took it back. Or maybe Boba had a spare set or three stashed somewhere. It barely needs to be explained at all really.
Or the reports a wrong and Olyphant is just playing some other mando...
Given that we've also seen reports of Temuera's casting; a much more likely scenario is that Olyphant will be playing Boba Fett physically, with Morrison providing the VO. Indeed the recent episode of 'Disney Gallery' made a point to emphasise that Dyn Djarin is played by three different actors, so it's hardly unprecedented. Hell, Temuera is the only actor ever to have played a Fett both in the suit and as the voice!
As for how he got his armor back; as you say it's been 5 years, anything could have happened. Like say Boba shot Vanth and took it back. Or maybe Boba had a spare set or three stashed somewhere. It barely needs to be explained at all really.
Or the reports a wrong and Olyphant is just playing some other mando...
Timothy Olyphant seems like an awfully big name to have on the show, and then not show his voice or use his face.
Yes, I know they had a bunch of big name people in stormtrooper costumes in the movies, but those were unannounced cameos, while they made a big deal about Olyphant. I just can't see them announcing Olyphant like they did if he wasn't going to be recognizable in some form. Even when Pedro Pascale wasn't always in Din Djarin's armor, he did always voice him.
Yes, I know they had a bunch of big name people in stormtrooper costumes in the movies, but those were unannounced cameos, while they made a big deal about Olyphant. I just can't see them announcing Olyphant like they did if he wasn't going to be recognizable in some form. Even when Pedro Pascale wasn't always in Din Djarin's armor, he did always voice him.
That's not very hard, they don't need to do his entire backstory, just say he's a Sheriff and he got the armour from some Jawas.
Rogue One didn't give Saw's entire backstory. Hell I don't think they referenced any of his backstory from Clone Wars.
Saw was actually somewhat relevant to the plot. Indeed, they started off with an original character and changed it to Saw when it was pointed out that he'd fit the role rather nicely...and being a character that was actually created by George Lucas made it a much more appealing proposition. Cobb Vanth is as I said, a nothing character. If the only reason to have him is to have *someone* wearing the Fett armour, well then you may as well just have Fett, no?
People said the same about Pedro Pascal. And yet, here were are with him mostly doing VO for two other actors and showing his face exactly once the entire season. Plus, it's Star Wars. That gets a lot of people WAY more interested in even minor parts.
Really though; if we all believe the reports of Temuera Morrison being on the show, why are we even debating it? Why would they NOT use him?
You're suggesting the opposite though. There's no way they'd hire a big-name actor like Olyphant and then just use him as a stunt double and have someone else dub over his voice. That's ludicrous.
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