But that's called writers being bad at their jobs. They already did that with Ford and now to do this with Weir? What's the point of writing Weir out of the show just to replace her with Sam who turns into Weir 2.0?
The Stargate Franchise - A First Timer's Watchthrough
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But that's called writers being bad at their jobs. They already did that with Ford and now to do this with Weir? What's the point of writing Weir out of the show just to replace her with Sam who turns into Weir 2.0?
It can be a bit of a two way street since most contracts are only for a few years at a time for obvious reasons. So every time they re-up, they have to renegotiate fees, which generally means you have to pay the actors incrementally more if you want to keep them around as their profile goes up and other offers start coming in.
As you can imagine, if it's an ensemble cast then things can get expensive once a show takes off and that eats away at the budget.
I'm sure we can recall a number of shows (especially genre shows that live and die by the margins) that seemed to start out OK, but then suddenly went into a downward spiral of quality and a revolving door of cast members coming and going. It's very easy for it to go that way.
Indeed, this is *partly* why GoT ended in the shambles that it did. That's a HUGE ensemble cast and by the end of it most of them were commanding FRIENDS level fees, so as successful and popular and lucrative as the show was, it wasn't sustainable. Hence: mad fumbling dash to the end. (Yes I know there were other factors at play on the "creative" side, but this is what the financial bottom line looked like.)
Doppelganger
Why did they have to kill off Kate Heightmayer? I really liked her in the episodes she was in. It wasn't much but she seemed to be a better counselor than someone like TNG era Troi. This was a dream episode that even referenced Cold Lazarus. There are so many episodes like this that it was just OK for me, but we did get a good John vs John scene. Also, Sam is kinda Weir light in this episode. You'd think she'd take more action considering she's seen what crystal entities have done before.
Why did they have to kill off Kate Heightmayer? I really liked her in the episodes she was in. It wasn't much but she seemed to be a better counselor than someone like TNG era Troi. This was a dream episode that even referenced Cold Lazarus. There are so many episodes like this that it was just OK for me, but we did get a good John vs John scene. Also, Sam is kinda Weir light in this episode. You'd think she'd take more action considering she's seen what crystal entities have done before.
I have never watched GoT but even I know that HBO actually wanted many more seasons / episodes of the show and the two creators were rushing it so they could use their fame to make bigger things, like a Star Wars trilogy.
Supernatural? With 15 seasons that would take him at least 6 months.
Personally, I am not sure Carter was used right on Atlantis but I will wait until you watch more episodes before I comment on why, to avoid spoilers.
She had some fun stuff. The one where she’s trapped with McKay in a pit was a good one. They didn’t want to use her that much I feel as they didn’t want her to outshadow the other actors.
Yeah, that episode is fun.
But Carter kinda felt like a placeholder until Woolsey could take over.
She was only ever going to do one season since she was contracted to do 11 seasons of Stargate SG-1 and so when it was cancelled she did her final year at Atlantis.
Travelers
I think this was Sheppard at his "Kirk-iest". He gets kidnapped by a beautiful woman who is a leader of a rogue atlantian battle ship and the episode ends with them forming an alliance against what they hope is a weakened Wraith after their fight with the replicators. It was a pretty simple episode, not really much to talk about other than to give me an excuse to say I forgot to mention this storyline about the Wraith vs. Replicators. While I didn't like the use of the Replicators on Ark of Truth, I'm actually enjoying their use here. Maybe because it's the human replicators and we don't spend an entire episode shooting robots. That, and I'm actually liking this storyline so far. It sounds like we will see Larrin again, which is cool. I did like her, for a multitude of reasons.
I thought the actress who played Larrin looked really familiar so I looked her up on IMDB. She was the co-host of Wipeout.
I think this was Sheppard at his "Kirk-iest". He gets kidnapped by a beautiful woman who is a leader of a rogue atlantian battle ship and the episode ends with them forming an alliance against what they hope is a weakened Wraith after their fight with the replicators. It was a pretty simple episode, not really much to talk about other than to give me an excuse to say I forgot to mention this storyline about the Wraith vs. Replicators. While I didn't like the use of the Replicators on Ark of Truth, I'm actually enjoying their use here. Maybe because it's the human replicators and we don't spend an entire episode shooting robots. That, and I'm actually liking this storyline so far. It sounds like we will see Larrin again, which is cool. I did like her, for a multitude of reasons.
I thought the actress who played Larrin looked really familiar so I looked her up on IMDB. She was the co-host of Wipeout.
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It seems like many Sci Fi shows have the troupe of a memory loss episode. I was ready to say Buffy's was better, for example, because it had the Michelle Branch scene which might be one of the most saddest scenes in any Sci Fi series I've seen. I really really liked Atlantis's take on it. The city becomes infected with a virus causing memory loss and it's up to Teyla and Ronon to find a plant that would cure it. I liked how we went from present day and past (Kinda like Sunday) until they kind of met together and the camera work was also great. It was clear as the virus was spreading but it was kinda blurry during the present day scenes. There has been plenty of Teyla so far this season which I like, but I also like that Momoa is also allowed to flex his acting chops and open up more in a non-Ronon episode. I also think, surprisingly, they might actually be toning down McKay so far. He is still a know it all, but he doesn't seem as arrogant and jerk-ish so far as he did in Season 3. Also, he has probably my favorite line of the series. They were talking about the virus and about memory loss and he says "I once forgot Mother's Day 5 years in a row". I have to say I laughed out loud at that one.
Actually that whole exchange is hilarious, so might as well post it. For some reason Gateworld is down today so I got this from the SGCommand Wiki Page:
It seems like many Sci Fi shows have the troupe of a memory loss episode. I was ready to say Buffy's was better, for example, because it had the Michelle Branch scene which might be one of the most saddest scenes in any Sci Fi series I've seen. I really really liked Atlantis's take on it. The city becomes infected with a virus causing memory loss and it's up to Teyla and Ronon to find a plant that would cure it. I liked how we went from present day and past (Kinda like Sunday) until they kind of met together and the camera work was also great. It was clear as the virus was spreading but it was kinda blurry during the present day scenes. There has been plenty of Teyla so far this season which I like, but I also like that Momoa is also allowed to flex his acting chops and open up more in a non-Ronon episode. I also think, surprisingly, they might actually be toning down McKay so far. He is still a know it all, but he doesn't seem as arrogant and jerk-ish so far as he did in Season 3. Also, he has probably my favorite line of the series. They were talking about the virus and about memory loss and he says "I once forgot Mother's Day 5 years in a row". I have to say I laughed out loud at that one.
Actually that whole exchange is hilarious, so might as well post it. For some reason Gateworld is down today so I got this from the SGCommand Wiki Page:
Missing
Wow, another Teyla episode, with a nice side of Dr. Keller. This episode was great. It was about what it takes to survive and it sets up an arc for Teyla this season to find where her people were taken, if they are not dead. I also liked Dr. Keller. Yeah they portrayed her as a wimp and she might have been a little annoying but that was the point. She held her own in the end though. Also, Danny Trajo is in a ton of stuff. He's like mr. reliable action hero guy.
Just a side note, I found out that David Nykl, the guy who plays Zelenka on this series also played Anatoly on Arrow. I didn't even recognize him and that is one hell of a transformation.
So far this season has been great, and I am finding I don't miss Carter. I did get 10 seasons and a movie (With one to go) with her, even though the deeper I get into this season the more I'm starting to really think what happened on Atlantis was exactly the same as what happened with Lien on Voyager.
Wow, another Teyla episode, with a nice side of Dr. Keller. This episode was great. It was about what it takes to survive and it sets up an arc for Teyla this season to find where her people were taken, if they are not dead. I also liked Dr. Keller. Yeah they portrayed her as a wimp and she might have been a little annoying but that was the point. She held her own in the end though. Also, Danny Trajo is in a ton of stuff. He's like mr. reliable action hero guy.
Just a side note, I found out that David Nykl, the guy who plays Zelenka on this series also played Anatoly on Arrow. I didn't even recognize him and that is one hell of a transformation.
So far this season has been great, and I am finding I don't miss Carter. I did get 10 seasons and a movie (With one to go) with her, even though the deeper I get into this season the more I'm starting to really think what happened on Atlantis was exactly the same as what happened with Lien on Voyager.
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Gotta shake up the status quo.
She was a Doctor... on Stargate. I really don't understand the question.
I worry for Dr. Keller. They even made her a pretty sympathetic character.
On a serious note, it is amazing that being a Doctor in the Stargate universe could be extremely fatal.
The comparison to Kirk seems very apt. Just like with Kirk, the show frequently gave Shepard a beautiful woman to be his episode of the week fling.
I did like the chemistry between Shepard and Larrin. .
Yes, I think we see Larrin again.
I don't know. Our characters face all kinds of medical hazards from alien diseases, nanites, to alien bugs that transform your body, not to mention going off world and risking kidnapping, wraith culling, genii ambush etc... It's a dangerous business.
Well if you're the doctor and something happens to you, there's no one else to patch you up.
Which is why it was stupid to get rid of Weir to make room for Sam.
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