Not really, no.
Waiting for final episode before getting into 'Picard'?
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In my earlier post, while typing it, I must've blocked out 'Nemesis', such a weak movie, haven't payed attention to it in many many years. Data was alive in 'All Good Things...' and that's where TNG ends, for me. And the series does end with that episode.
While Alice Krige was great with her peformance as the Queen....
I've said something like this before but I'll say it again.
After the introduction of the Queen the Borg got a lot less scarier.
Before the Queen the Borg was a faceless enemy. You couldn't negotiate with it, not even have a conversation. The Borg told you what they want and you couldn't negotiate with it.
Later in 'First Contact, here comes the Queen. She has chats with the crew, tries to seduce Data, shows emotion, eventually gets angry with Data. And to top it all off, the classic "destroy the biggest baddie" thing. When she is destroyed, all the Borg drones in the engine room start to jerk around and sparks fly.
No, just no.
I'm just a big fan on the well lit Enterprise-D. Perhaps the dark theme works well in 'Picard', don't know really.
It's one of the things that is annoying a little bit, unfortunately not the only one.
No, death is a part of life. In many cases writers just kill off liked characters without a good reason. (opinion)
I haven't watched the series so hard to reply to this. But are mind and body two different things? If body dies, mind might go with it, no matter how sophisticated programming some computer has.
Then I must have written poorly, that's not what I mean.
Seems like it's presumed that since someone here (me) likes Star Trek I must automatically like all those other things mentioned. Well, I don't. Alien is not for me, at all. I don't think I have ever watched any of them from start to finish. I could have, I just don't remember. Terminators have their moments but when you start to really think about the plot it's quite ridiculous. Back to the Future, can't really say, I haven't watched them in.... I'm not sure I have watched them? ....apart from some scenes on TV while channel surfing.
I guess if you can watch The Matrix and forget how lame Zion turned out to be with the rave and council scenes, how goofy agent Smith and the rest of the story turns out, and all the architect info dumps. I cant really forget how bad it was and enjoy the original anymore.
I would say a sequel can certainly affect previous stories. Look at how Generations negatively affected the episode Family from TNG. The ending with Rene looking towards the stars is more of a tragedy. And I would say it wasnt really worth it for the effect it achieved in Generations
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Feels like that story about Rene and his family was thrown in just because Soran would feel super evil when he says something like "Time is a fire in which we burn". One of the reasons I stay away from 'Generations'.
Then you're using Picard as a scapegoat for things Generations, Nemesis, and the 2009 film have done. Picard doesn't pick up where TNG left off. It picks up where the 24th Century left off (including DS9, VOY, and the movies).
I'm no fan of the TNG Movies, but I think Picard made lemonade from the lemons it was given. That's what impresses me even more about the show.
I'm not saying that everyone does. I just try to take a story as it is in the moment. Generations is unfortunately tragic, but that doesn't change how the Picards reconcile in Family.
I won't argue against perspective, but my perspective is that if a story is good then a story is good.
'Generations' is weak and 'Nemesis' is just bad. (<- opinion)
I'm not sure I have watched Star Trek 2009.... I have watched the one with "new" Kirk and Nimoy.
Seems like if one (me) were to end TNG marathon with 'All Good Things...' it isn't smart to jump straight into 'Picard'.
But hey, TNG is great just as a TV series, it isn't necessary to add anything to it.
Additions are never necessary.
Then I think you're not judging Picard fairly. It's picking up where things left off in the timeline in general. Not just TNG. You don't have to like where things left off (I don't like all of it either), but Picard still had to address it. It can't pretend Data didn't die, Romulus wasn't destroyed, and Picard wasn't stuck with a vineyard he inherited. It can't ignore those things if it wants to be the continuation of previous Star Trek. This is not the state Picard created. It's the state Picard found things in.
People complaining about where New Trek picked up are really complaining about where Old Trek left off.
Pretty much.
Thing is, if you don't like Nemesis, then there's a better chance that you will like Picard, because a major aspect of the show's existence is not letting that crappy film be the final word on 24th century Trek.
Spock, Surak, Soong, and Graves would disagree
They're just examples. The Matrix as mentioned later is another good one.
Well, the answer has been found.
Waiting for final episode before getting into 'Picard'? Answer - Yes.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Before 'Picard', back into Better Call Saul season 5. Also, eventually a rewatch of Breaking Bad. The Office (UK) with my sister. Madventures Finland. Burgermies Euroopassa. (<- Burgerman in Europe, Finnish series) I think I need to check out how 'Discovery' season 2 ended. Also, 2 and ½ men.... Top Gear (UK) among others.
But here's the best part: There's also the nearly annual best of TNG during June and July. Nearly annual 24 season 1 coming later this year maybe....? (with alternate ending)
Waiting for final episode before getting into 'Picard'? Answer - Yes.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Before 'Picard', back into Better Call Saul season 5. Also, eventually a rewatch of Breaking Bad. The Office (UK) with my sister. Madventures Finland. Burgermies Euroopassa. (<- Burgerman in Europe, Finnish series) I think I need to check out how 'Discovery' season 2 ended. Also, 2 and ½ men.... Top Gear (UK) among others.
But here's the best part: There's also the nearly annual best of TNG during June and July. Nearly annual 24 season 1 coming later this year maybe....? (with alternate ending)
I wish you all the luck, especially rewatching TNG and 2 1/2 men.
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