Babylon 5

[RJDiogenes]

Lochley was okay, and it was wise of Sheridan to choose someone who had fought on the other side in the Civil War.

As for Byron, he was supposed to be annoying. He was an overgrown adolescent with a savior complex and a genius for self sabotage. Basically, a Millennial in Spaaaace.

 

[Farscape One]

Byron was a great catalyst for Lyta. She changed because of him... she became as fiery as her hair.

(I have not met her yet, though always wanted to. I always thought she was very attractive, and I wanted ask about her stunt work on the various STAR TREK series along with B5.)

 

[DigificWriter]

I was not aware that Lochley only appeared in less than half of Season 5's episodes.

One would think that as a new character, that number would've been higher.

Also, I've never understood the enmity towards the Telepath storyline or the character of Byron.

 

[Farscape One]

Maybe it's a subconscious transference of animosity towards telepaths. I know I've never liked or trusted them, though I have really enjoyed the Bester episodes. There's just so much distrust ingrained with them that it's sometimes hard to separate good ones from the rest.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

Byron was a great catalyst for Lyta. She changed because of him... she became as fiery as her hair.

(I have not met her yet, though always wanted to. I always thought she was very attractive, and I wanted ask about her stunt work on the various STAR TREK series along with B5.)

I was in a hot tub with her at the hotel where the convention Shore Leave was held in Towson Maryland back in the 90’s.

 

[Farscape One]

Very jealous...

 

[Guy Gardener]

I spent 20 years thinking that Alotta Fagina was Salma Hayek.

Oops.

 

[Forbin]

I love Pat Tallman. The only good thing about the Byron storyline is that it gave Pat Tallman more scenes.

 

[DonIago]

Byron was a great catalyst for Lyta. She changed because of him... she became as fiery as her hair.

(I have not met her yet, though always wanted to. I always thought she was very attractive, and I wanted ask about her stunt work on the various STAR TREK series along with B5.)

While I wasn't tremendously fond of Doormat!Lyta, I really hated Radical!Lyta too. She became exactly the kind of person that I don't think Byron would have wanted her to be.

 

[Farscape One]

But I do wonder if some of that wss because of how the Vorlons altered her.

I think Garibaldi even pointed that out as a possibility.

 

[DonIago]

It's a little 'convenient' to me that it would have happened at that point in time though. If Lyta was intended to be a WMD against the Shadows, why didn't Kosh (either one) use her as such at the time? Sure KoshClassic grew fond of the kids and likely wouldn't have done such a thing, but NuKosh would likely have been totally on board with it. Now that I'm thinking in these terms, it feels like a bit of a retcon actually.

 

[David cgc]

It's a little 'convenient' to me that it would have happened at that point in time though. If Lyta was intended to be a WMD against the Shadows, why didn't Kosh (either one) use her as such at the time? Sure KoshClassic grew fond of the kids and likely wouldn't have done such a thing, but NuKosh would likely have been totally on board with it. Now that I'm thinking in these terms, it feels like a bit of a retcon actually.

Sheridan interrupted the war, though. It's possible if he hadn't forced a direct confrontation between the Vorlons and the Shadows when he did, the conflict would've continued to escalate until the Vorlons and Shadows were willing to begin striking directly at one another, which is probably when Lyta and any other super-telepaths would've been used.

 

[DonIago]

I'd be curious to hear JMS's thoughts on that.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

it was wise of Sheridan to choose someone who had fought on the other side in the Civil War.

How so?

 

[Farscape One]

It let everyone know that Sheridan is a fair person. It was a step to help rebuild some bridges back on Earth.

A very smart play. Even better that he found someone that he knew he could trust.

 

[diankra]

The problem with season five is that they didn't know there was going to be one. Things that should havery been a c or b plot, building in the background, became an A plot on day one.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's a little 'convenient' to me that it would have happened at that point in time though. If Lyta was intended to be a WMD against the Shadows, why didn't Kosh (either one) use her as such at the time? Sure KoshClassic grew fond of the kids and likely wouldn't have done such a thing, but NuKosh would likely have been totally on board with it. Now that I'm thinking in these terms, it feels like a bit of a retcon actually.

The Vorlons and Shadows were fighting a limited war with a lot of gentlemanly rules to make sure that neither side got much more than a bloody nose, because all said and done, they all used to be buddies not so long ago.

All they wanted was the other side to say "okay, you're right, and we were wrong, sorry for being a dick about it."

You know that, after they went beyond the rim, the Shadows and Vorlons probably started hooking up with each other, becuase every one in their own dating pool, they'd gotten dog tired of a million years ago.

 

[RJDiogenes]

I was in a hot tub with her at the hotel where the convention Shore Leave was held in Towson Maryland back in the 90’s.

Clearly I need to go to more conventions.

How so?

B5 was an ambassadorial outpost even before the war, and that function became even more important after it gained independence and became the head of the interstellar alliance. Lochley was more than just the commander of the station, she was an ambassador from the losing side of the war and the gesture showed that Sheridan wanted to put the conflict in the past and unite everyone.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

That Lockley was once married to Sheridan pushed things a little too much into soap opera territory though, perhaps?

 

[Guy Gardener]

B5 was an ambassadorial outpost even before the war, and that function became even more important after it gained independence and became the head of the interstellar alliance. Lochley was more than just the commander of the station, she was an ambassador from the losing side of the war and the gesture showed that Sheridan wanted to put the conflict in the past and unite everyone.

I'm going to question about where you think that the power sits.

Babylon 5 is an independent state that is a member of the ISA.

Sheridan described himself a "Military Governor" and Sinclair would vote for Earth on council meetings, following his conscience, unless word from back home decreed otherwise.

I doubt that Lochley got Earth's vote in the ISA, since she was basically on Holiday from her Earth Force duties to manage a foreign nation, so she was compromised.

I doubt that Lochley got B5's vote in the ISA, since she didn't have citizenship there, and if she had had B5 citizenship, I doubt she would be allowed to keep her Earth Force commission. She's a mercenary birthed on Babylon 5 to keep the trains running on time.

The President of the ISA doesn't get a vote because he doesn't represent a world, but from an admin point, he probably controls what legislation gets voted on and what gets misplaced forever, so he has a lot of power without actually having a vote.

So there's two people we never saw.

The ISA representative for B5, and the ISA representative for Earth.

True, Lochley could maybe have been one of those people, but not both.