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Babylon 5

When you think of it, it’s amazing that Babylon 5 has become such a timeless classic. It’s been 27 years since The Gathering, and even today I still go back and rewatch it when I want to see a serialized TV show. I can’t think of a more modern TV series that’s serialized, where I want to rewatch it from pilot to finale.
 
Two bad-ass quotes from two amazing characters from a 90's scifi show. :luvlove:

OK, one more...

Mr. Morden: What do YOU want?
Vir Cotto: What do I want? I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this.
[waves]
Vir Cotto : Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?
 
OK, one more...

Mr. Morden: What do YOU want?
Vir Cotto: What do I want? I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this.
[waves]
Vir Cotto : Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?

I haven't seen season 5, wasn't feeling the season 5 premiere. But one of the highlights of the show so far is the scene where he waves to the head on the spike.
 
OK, one more...

Mr. Morden: What do YOU want?
Vir Cotto: What do I want? I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this.
[waves]
Vir Cotto : Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?

I haven't seen season 5, wasn't feeling the season 5 premiere. But one of the highlights of the show so far is the scene where he waves to the head on the spike.

That little Vir finger-twiddle is perfect.

I loved both those scenes for several reasons. But one of the most mortifying things must be Vir actually waving. Look at everything that happened to him in all those years, that this naive young assistent was pushed so far...... He would wave at a head a pike....
 
Yes, which is why I noted that one running time is PAL and the other NTSC, but multiplying 89:24 by 25 / 23.976 yields 93:13, consistent with @JoeD80’s info, not 94:36, so it’s still shorter than the SE.



(If you could also look it up to the second, it would be great.)

Yes it's 93:13

I haven't seen season 5, wasn't feeling the season 5 premiere. But one of the highlights of the show so far is the scene where he waves to the head on the spike.

I never understand the trepidation about season five. That first episode is fun IMO where in the end G'Kar just gives up on the swearing in ceremony for Sheridan and just says "do you", "good we're done!"

Season five has some of my favorite scenes with Londo and G'Kar and the last 9 or so episodes of the season ties together a whole lot of the five years.
 
I loved both those scenes for several reasons. But one of the most mortifying things must be Vir actually waving. Look at everything that happened to him in all those years, that this naive young assistent was pushed so far...... He would wave at a head a pike....

Well, he had just assassinated the emperor. As shocked as he was by his own actions, he knew that these perpetrators of evil needed to die. He'd said as much just a few episodes earlier.
 
I haven't seen season 5, wasn't feeling the season 5 premiere. But one of the highlights of the show so far is the scene where he waves to the head on the spike.

That little Vir finger-twiddle is perfect.

I loved both those scenes for several reasons. But one of the most mortifying things must be Vir actually waving. Look at everything that happened to him in all those years, that this naive young assistent was pushed so far...... He would wave at a head a pike....
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Season 5 is my favorite season of B5, and I don't care how 'misguided' other fans might think I am for holding that opinion.

I do wish, though, that the Season/Series Finale had been Objects at Rest and not Sleeping in Light, and so my own personal Viewing Order now puts SiL after The Deconstruction of Falling Stars as the S4 finale.
 
Lochley grew on me over time. Her interactions with Garibaldi, especially the later ones, are some of the highpoints of the season for me.
 
I thought Lochley's straight laced attitude made a lot of sense. First, she was taking over a crew that had, by her estimation, mutinied and should have been prosecuted. Also, she was a wild child who went military to straighten out from a life of drug and alcohol addiction. She's stuck up because she doesn't have the self control for grey areas. She shares a lot of Garibaldi's attitudes which is why she recognized his problems and how to deal with them. I imagine a lot of things on B5 made more sense after she read the station logs, though.
 
I agree with your estimation of Lochley. You can't replace Ivanova, but she did a good job filling her shoes considering the circumstances.

It doesn't hurt that I've always found her VERY attractive. (Seen her in DS9, HIGHLANDER: THE SERIES, other things.)
 
I liked the idea of Lochley quite a bit, her personality, being someone who fought on the other side in the war.

Just season 5's cast was far more disjointed. There was not one team, there was individuals performing their own roles. So she never really connected with the other characters.
 
I was a lot more bothered by Byron's cultish followers (who were willing to abandon his principles when things got tough) than I was by Byron himself.

Though as I may have said upthread, his decision to try to blackmail the ambassadors into giving the telepaths a planet was amazingly ill-considered.
 
Because after 4 seasons everything that was built up had ended
Except for the stuff that's in season five? Garibaldi, Londo, G'Kar have some of the best scenes in year five. I also enjoyed the smaller off-beat episodes like The Corps Is Mother, The Corps Is Father

and then they introduced this new commander who was wooden and boring to me.

Well she's in only 10 episodes :shrug:
 
Well she's in only 10 episodes :shrug:

Yes that's all nice and fine, but I couldn't even get through one episode with her. It took me awhile to get into the show, but I blew through seasons 2-4 in no time. Then I felt fine with how season 4 ended, Prime got rid of it and the show needed to pull me back in and didn't. So now I'm watching other things, busy outside. I'll watch it at some point, but HBO shows are free for another month and I'm watching those.
 
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