Remember The Short Skirt Guys?

[Bollie74]

See, but that's already several times better than the Skant in Season 1; the skirt seems a bit longer, and it's also a lot looser than those very tight skants, probably allowing for greater ease when sitting down, running, kneeling, jumping etc.
And I like the full socks. The skants would have looked a lot better with full leg sucks/tights/leggings :-p




But look at how short those skirts are, even on the men, with that length they'd pretty much have to tuck it away in a tight pair of y-fronts, which would be detrimental for the swimmers.

Is it established in canon everyone is hung in the 24th century?

 

[Nakita Akita]

I don’t know, I think the skants are kinda sexy on the dudes. Very David from Schitts Creek

Pretty sure That's what Roddenberry was thinking in the 1960's.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

Now c'mon, who even wants to wear pants? Those fellas Winnie-the-Poohing around the Enterprise have the right notion.

 

[Therin of Andor]

A nightmare of waking up in the middle of a crisis aboard the Enterprise where they reported to their duty station in a skirt?

Tasha Yar is wearing a skant in the final bridge scene of "Encounter at Farpoint".

Skants are a divided skirt/pant design, much as the female uniform dress had one thigh wrapped with fabric to prevent it riding up.

 

[Nakita Akita]

Tasha Yar is wearing a skant in the final bridge scene of "Encounter at Farpoint".

Skants are a divided skirt/pant design, much as the female uniform dress had one thigh wrapped with fabric to prevent it riding up.

One thigh wrapped in fabric?
What?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I always assumed the real world reason was to make it less sexist for Troi to wear it.

 

[Orphalesion]

Here's a photo of the one time an extra (who, from behind looks a lot like Troi) wore the skant with pants.
http://www.startrekcostumeguide.com/p/tng-skant-analysis-exceptions-2-child.html

Imho if they had dressed Deanna like that (skant+pants) it would have been perfectly alright.

 

[Nakita Akita]

Here's a photo of the one time an extra (who, from behind looks a lot like Troi) wore the skant with pants.
http://www.startrekcostumeguide.com/p/tng-skant-analysis-exceptions-2-child.html

Imho if they had dressed Deanna like that (skant+pants) it would have been perfectly alright.

That outfit looks great.
It's like a tunic top with pants. The pants don't even look like tights, they look
Like regular dress pants. That looks like a nice looking uniform.

The women's uniform in the army when I was in had a shaped top, like that tunic top shape but shorter. And regular dress pants for women.
Men wore a shirt tucked in and a belt.


Someone above talked about one thought wrapped in something to keep something from riding up. Sounds like a torture device.
I want an image of that mess.

 

[Therin of Andor]

One thigh wrapped in fabric?
What?

The design of the TOS Starfleet "miniskirt". It wasn't actually a mini. Inside, a length of matching fabric wrapped one thigh, essentially dividing the garment like culottes. This was described to me by Grace Lee Whitney herself, who helped William Ware Theiss finalise the design. They needed to stop the skirt from "riding up" in action scenes.

Someone above talked about one thought wrapped in something to keep something from riding up. Sounds like a torture device.
I want an image of that mess.

Culottes. A divided skirt. But tighter on one thigh only.

 

[Orphalesion]

The design of the TOS Starfleet "miniskirt". It wasn't actually a mini. Inside, a length of matching fabric wrapped one thigh, essentially dividing the garment like culottes. This was described to me by Grace Lee Whitney herself, who helped William Ware Theiss finalise the design. They needed to stop the skirt from "riding up" in action scenes.

That does make a lot of sense, considering how freaking short the skirt and skants were, I always wondered how they never slipped. I always assumed costume tape was involved.

 

[Nakita Akita]

The design of the TOS Starfleet "miniskirt". It wasn't actually a mini. Inside, a length of matching fabric wrapped one thigh, essentially dividing the garment like culottes. This was described to me by Grace Lee Whitney herself, who helped William Ware Theiss finalise the design. They needed to stop the skirt from "riding up" in action scenes.



Culottes. A divided skirt. But tighter on one thigh only.

Mmmm, still sounds like a torture devise.
Tight on one leg.
For me clothing that isn't symmetrical feels weird when I'm wearing it.
I thought culottes were sort of an ugly longer set of pants that looked like a sort of big skirt.
Culottes wouldn't have been a bad uniform either. If they were the longer ones.

I still wish Picard and or Riker would have been wearing the minidress.

 

[diankra]

I understand that women often described the clothes men expect them to wear as torture!

 

[Therin of Andor]

For me clothing that isn't symmetrical feels weird when I'm wearing it.

The magic of television.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

I still wish Picard and or Riker would have been wearing the minidress.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

I still wish Picard and or Riker would have been wearing the minidress.

Imagine Riker doing the patent Riker chair mount in a minidress

 

[KimMH]

Here's a photo of the one time an extra (who, from behind looks a lot like Troi) wore the skant with pants.
http://www.startrekcostumeguide.com/p/tng-skant-analysis-exceptions-2-child.html

Imho if they had dressed Deanna like that (skant+pants) it would have been perfectly alright.

I have considered making the TNG slant but always planned to wear it with pants. This is perfect.

The design of the TOS Starfleet "miniskirt". It wasn't actually a mini. Inside, a length of matching fabric wrapped one thigh, essentially dividing the garment like culottes. This was described to me by Grace Lee Whitney herself, who helped William Ware Theiss finalise the design. They needed to stop the skirt from "riding up" in action scenes.



Culottes. A divided skirt. But tighter on one thigh only.

Do you know if any patterns exist that include that construction?

 

[Therin of Andor]

Do you know if any patterns exist that include that construction?

Certainly not the Lincoln Enterprises patterns. Friends who made their minis from that pattern found it lacking in accuracy in several places.

 

[Nakita Akita]

Certainly not the Lincoln Enterprises patterns. Friends who made their minis from that pattern found it lacking in accuracy in several places.

I can't really imagine that the 1960's minis warped anything on the thigh of the wearer since the skirts were not even covering the tops of the thighs.
When the girls say down, the cloth would have been visible. Do you have any images?

 

[Therin of Andor]

I can't really imagine that the 1960's minis warped anything on the thigh of the wearer since the skirts were not even covering the tops of the thighs.
When the girls say down, the cloth would have been visible. Do you have any images?

I have Grace Lee Whitney's vivid description at a convention in Brisbane, Australia, in 1982. If you want to argue about tightness of fabric around a leg or Grace's determination of how high up her thigh the fabric was, I cannot help you.

I would assume they looked a bit like men's football shorts with a built-in support brief?

 

[Nakita Akita]

I have Grace Lee Whitney's vivid description at a convention in Brisbane, Australia, in 1982. If you want to argue about tightness of fabric around a leg or Grace's determination of how high up her thigh the fabric was, I cannot help you.

I would assume they looked a bit like men's football shorts with a built-in support brief?

I was thinking more like a dance outfit.
The underwear is attached to the skirt.
Just like men's shorts.
I wore the men's shorts with the 'support' liner in the Army. (Because women are, after all just smaller sized men)
I'm just having a difficult time figuring out how one longer short pants leg wouldn't show during the scenes.
Is it possible that you misinterpreted or misunderstood what she meant?