I'm watching 1969, and Jack O'neill just referred himself as Captain James T Kirk. Stargate and Star Trek, and now Star Wars coming together in matrimony. 
The Stargate Franchise - A First Timer's Watchthrough
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Show and Tell, 1969, Out of Mind, Into the Fire
I watched a lot of Stargate tonight. I don't want this post to feel very long winded so just a few notes on each episode:
Show and Tell: I liked seeing Jacob again. They really did wonders with him this season in the very little that we saw, and I'm glad that the writers did bring him back after the big two parter. I'm still not a fan of child actors so I can take or leave the kid, but I hope the Reetu make a return. They looked like the Shadows from Babylon 5.
1969: This was probably my favorite episode of the group. I loved taking that ride with the 1960s hippie music cross country, and the two hippies were really nice characters, especially with the revelation that the guy was drafted and they were hoping Woodstock was the final blast they had for a while. I also really liked learning more about Hammond. I also loved the ending with Jack and Hammond and Hammond tells Jack how much he owes, plus interest.
Out of Mind: I have mixed reactions on this episode. I know you all said that Clip Shows would become a fixture on this series, and I thought they were used pretty well here. However, it's the season finale and comparing it to the first season finale, I feel like this one was a slight let down. Also, the revelation of Hathor being back after having this arc of Apophis throughout the entire season felt like it came out of left field.
Into the Fire: It's not Serpent's Lair, but I had a lot of fun with it. I didn't mind Hathor here, but I am glad she's dead. Apophis and Sokar are much more interesting anyway. I also really liked the action here, and the end when Teal'c and Hammond were taking out the towers actually reminded me a little of Star Wars, even with Hammond's "Yee Haw", which was kinda funny.
Overall, I enjoyed season 2 and I do think it was better than Season 1. Things really are starting to come together, and now that the Allies are here and we know much more about the Stargate World, it feels like the fun in this universe is just about ready to begin. I think that quote from Cassandra in 1969 was very apt about their journey is just beginning.
Favorite episodes from Season 2:
The Fifth Race - I think this episode will be my favorite episode of the series for a long while. That was sensational.
Serpent's Lair - That is still a hell of a premiere episode.
In the Line of Duty - It really starts Samantha's arc this season that was really well done.
Secrets - This was the main Apophis episode of the season and we got to see Daniel's wife again, finally.
Thor's Chariot - That ending scene was really really cool.
I'm now 6 seasons away from Atlantis and I have a month more (Plus some) of sheltering in Place. I will say in this very dark time, I made the right choice to start Stargate. I'm enjoying it and for a time I can forget we have this virus going around that shut down society for a long period of time.
I watched a lot of Stargate tonight. I don't want this post to feel very long winded so just a few notes on each episode:
Show and Tell: I liked seeing Jacob again. They really did wonders with him this season in the very little that we saw, and I'm glad that the writers did bring him back after the big two parter. I'm still not a fan of child actors so I can take or leave the kid, but I hope the Reetu make a return. They looked like the Shadows from Babylon 5.
1969: This was probably my favorite episode of the group. I loved taking that ride with the 1960s hippie music cross country, and the two hippies were really nice characters, especially with the revelation that the guy was drafted and they were hoping Woodstock was the final blast they had for a while. I also really liked learning more about Hammond. I also loved the ending with Jack and Hammond and Hammond tells Jack how much he owes, plus interest.
Out of Mind: I have mixed reactions on this episode. I know you all said that Clip Shows would become a fixture on this series, and I thought they were used pretty well here. However, it's the season finale and comparing it to the first season finale, I feel like this one was a slight let down. Also, the revelation of Hathor being back after having this arc of Apophis throughout the entire season felt like it came out of left field.
Into the Fire: It's not Serpent's Lair, but I had a lot of fun with it. I didn't mind Hathor here, but I am glad she's dead. Apophis and Sokar are much more interesting anyway. I also really liked the action here, and the end when Teal'c and Hammond were taking out the towers actually reminded me a little of Star Wars, even with Hammond's "Yee Haw", which was kinda funny.
Overall, I enjoyed season 2 and I do think it was better than Season 1. Things really are starting to come together, and now that the Allies are here and we know much more about the Stargate World, it feels like the fun in this universe is just about ready to begin. I think that quote from Cassandra in 1969 was very apt about their journey is just beginning.
Favorite episodes from Season 2:
The Fifth Race - I think this episode will be my favorite episode of the series for a long while. That was sensational.
Serpent's Lair - That is still a hell of a premiere episode.
In the Line of Duty - It really starts Samantha's arc this season that was really well done.
Secrets - This was the main Apophis episode of the season and we got to see Daniel's wife again, finally.
Thor's Chariot - That ending scene was really really cool.
I'm now 6 seasons away from Atlantis and I have a month more (Plus some) of sheltering in Place. I will say in this very dark time, I made the right choice to start Stargate. I'm enjoying it and for a time I can forget we have this virus going around that shut down society for a long period of time.
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Looking back, it is a bit weird that they ended season 2 with a clip show type episode. Normally, the show did the clip show 2 or 3 episodes before the big finale.
I also love Tealc's "braveheart" speech. Tealc is so good at giving those rousing speeches.
Well, said. And the journey is going to be pretty exciting. Season 3 has some great episodes. It won't surprise you that season 3 continues the trend of following up on loose threads from previous episodes which Stargate does very well. So several episodes are sequels to things that happened in season 2 or earlier in season 3.
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on season 3. Glad you are watching Stargate.
When you think about it, it's much worse than that.
From their perspective the gate shut down, reactivated, then a MALP appeared from nowhere and then they got blasted in the face with the twisted remains of the iris, then shards of toughened bullet proof glass moving at high velocity, followed shortly by a falling Col Cromwell. Who I hope for his own sake died on impact, because otherwise all he had to look forward to is death by spaghettification with only a bunch of metal and glass shredded corpses for company...
If memory serves me, when SG-1 was first brought to Showtime, it had a guarantee of 2 seasons. Then, a renewal if 2 seasons in one shot, then a 5th season before it was shopped to SciFi Channel. (Before it became SyFy.) Then when there, it was on a year to year basis.
I think when they were doing the renewal talks, they put a lot of money into certain episodes BEFORE the finale, sort of a showcase of what they can do, which might have been a factor in getting the dual season pickup.
Welcome to season 3! I think season 3, personally, was the turning point that made SG-1 a phenomenon. It's one of the most solid seasons, and the production values just keep getting better.
I think when they were doing the renewal talks, they put a lot of money into certain episodes BEFORE the finale, sort of a showcase of what they can do, which might have been a factor in getting the dual season pickup.
Welcome to season 3! I think season 3, personally, was the turning point that made SG-1 a phenomenon. It's one of the most solid seasons, and the production values just keep getting better.
Season 3 has some important episodes.
Without spoilers, I would say the following episodes are the "key" episodes in terms of world-building and moving the story arc forward in a big way:
- Fair Game
- Forever in a Day
- Mid Season two-parter: Jolinar's Memories & The Devil You Know
- Pretense
- Maternal Instinct
- Finale: Nemesis
Without spoilers, I would say the following episodes are the "key" episodes in terms of world-building and moving the story arc forward in a big way:
- Fair Game
- Forever in a Day
- Mid Season two-parter: Jolinar's Memories & The Devil You Know
- Pretense
- Maternal Instinct
- Finale: Nemesis
I would say those episodes exactly are the key ones. Good call.
No, Dr. Frasier was never part of the main cast. As the series goes on she does get deployed on missions through the gate more and more, and there are a few episodes where she has a central role. But she never joins the main cast. Though by the fourth season I think they do start giving her a special listing in the guest credits, where she gets listed as "And Teryl Rothery as Dr. Frasier."
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Decent episode, but I thought the best part was Teal'c's joke that no one got. Judge's delivery of that was hilarious. As for the rest, always fun to see Sam and Jacob bond together and we met another Goa'uld system lord. That's two system lords killed in two episodes in a row. SG-1 is starting the season pretty strong. If I had one criticism, it might have felt a little rushed at the end, and the storyline with Mark and Jaco\b might have felt like an afterthought with everything else going on. I was wondering the episode was almost over and it felt like there was maybe 10 minutes of story left to tell. That's a minor quibble however, and this is continuing a good start for Season 3.
Decent episode, but I thought the best part was Teal'c's joke that no one got. Judge's delivery of that was hilarious. As for the rest, always fun to see Sam and Jacob bond together and we met another Goa'uld system lord. That's two system lords killed in two episodes in a row. SG-1 is starting the season pretty strong. If I had one criticism, it might have felt a little rushed at the end, and the storyline with Mark and Jaco\b might have felt like an afterthought with everything else going on. I was wondering the episode was almost over and it felt like there was maybe 10 minutes of story left to tell. That's a minor quibble however, and this is continuing a good start for Season 3.
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That's definitely got to be one of the best Teal'c moments period.
Fair Game
Great episode. Loved Jack's negotiation technique, being able to bluff Nirriti, and the promotion of Sam to Major. It seemed to me like Humanity kind of got the raw end of the treaty though, but I guess you have to pay the price for not destroying the planet and giving up Gate travel. I also enjoyed meeting three new Goa'uld System Lords. They are really bringing them all out this season so far.
Great episode. Loved Jack's negotiation technique, being able to bluff Nirriti, and the promotion of Sam to Major. It seemed to me like Humanity kind of got the raw end of the treaty though, but I guess you have to pay the price for not destroying the planet and giving up Gate travel. I also enjoyed meeting three new Goa'uld System Lords. They are really bringing them all out this season so far.
Michael Shanks does some great acting in the next episode, Legacy.
I think it makes sense. Earth is in a weak position with no real leverage. There is nothing stopping the Goauld from coming to Earth in ships and taking Earth by force. So Earth would have to give up a lot in exchange for the Goauld not just taking what they could take so easily. If anything, it could have been worse. Remember, that the SGC was about to agree to worse terms, where they give up all gate travel. The only reason they got to keep the gate was because they exposed Nirti's treachery and saved Kronos.
Another aspect of the episode that is interesting is that US government was apparently negotiating a planetary treaty with the Systems Lords on behalf of the entire planet without consulting any other governments. At least, I don't think the episode mentions the US government talking to other governments.
Wasn't the existence of the Stargate(s) only known to the U.S at this point in the series?
Yes. Since only the US government knew about the program at this point, the US government was making decisions for the entire planet on its own. I just wanted to highlight the fact that the US government just signed an interplanetary treaty on behalf of the entire planet. It is a point that will be addressed later in the series.
This was one episode I wasn't really going to skip but since you mentioned it, I did see it last night and this was probably the best acting Shanks has done in the series. I mentioned I'm listening to a podcast while I'm doing this rewatch, which is called "Get into Gate" (They seem to laugh at themselves a lot but it's been getting better) and one of the things they have been talking about was Shanks wanting to be challenged more in this show and how in later seasons there was tensions between him and the rest of the cast. It seems like Legacy was his biggest challenge yet and it was nice to see him outside that science blurting comfort zone.
do tell.
According to them it was basically Shanks getting a little bored with just playing the scientist all the time and that he was taking on a few different roles just so he could be challenged, which was why in Legacy he was taking on the role of the voice of Mach'ello. Like I said I'm not sure how reliable this is (I guess it's on the special features and fans of the series would have better sources than I do) but that's what I heard.
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