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Spoilers On Seven and sexuality

The assumption is 7 is bi now.
I imagine a few characters were bi or pan. Riker is almost certainly pan given his past. Maybe Kirk too.

Jeri Ryan is obviously very attractive, but I found her Voyager outfits very off-putting. It was just too much, almost pornographic. Like we get it, she's hot, but stop objectifying her.
I like it better when they let her wear an actual uniform. She looked great in them.
 
I just personally don't care about them. They're a gay couple because Star Trek wanted to introduce a gay couple for the first time. That's not interesting, that's cheap and forced.
Something tells me if you were around in 1966 when Star trek premiered you would have lost your shit over Uhura and Sulu...having those colored people on there must seem 'cheap and forced'.
 
I imagine a few characters were bi or pan. Riker is almost certainly pan given his past. Maybe Kirk too.

can I just leave this here?
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Seven and Raffi was still done horribly. And it was pure pandering to throw in yet more gay characters.
No, holding hands is not horribly done. The presence of gay characters is not pandering. It does seem to tick off folk who don't want LGBT folks seen on screen, though. I don't care about that demographic being pandered to by removing LGBT folks from sight.
 
Seven pseudo adopted a fully grown man, who wanted to have the sex with her, so that Icheb had to call her mother, instead of baby, baby, baby.

Desperately seeking Oedipal complex.
 
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Coincidentally Wallace Shawn 5 minutes ago explained Oedipus to his class in an episode of Clueless I am watching.

The kids were horrorfied and called it Odepus Reeks because they were disgusted by the subject matter
 
Jeri Ryan is obviously very attractive, but I found her Voyager outfits very off-putting. It was just too much, almost pornographic. Like we get it, she's hot, but stop objectifying her.

Rick Berman wanted a "babe" (his words). :shifty:

Thank goodness we can now leave the catsuits back in the 90's where they belong. :techman:

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Every time I see a picture of her from Voyager, I keep reminding myself, "She had to wear a corset. She had to wear a corset."

I'm glad Seven is now able to be who she is -- a former soldier. Someone with a license to kill unapologetically. :)
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Imagine at the end of TNG season 1 they throw in a shot of Dr Crusher holding hands with Reginald Barclay. I like the choice I just have to admit it is also really out of the blue. It's as sudden as Chakotay randomly being into her at the end of voyager.
 
Rick Berman wanted a "babe" (his words). :shifty:

Thank goodness we can now leave the catsuits back in the 90's where they belong. :techman:

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Every time I see a picture of her from Voyager, I keep reminding myself, "She had to wear a corset. She had to wear a corset."

I'm glad Seven is now able to be who she is
Indeed.

Even if I wouldn't decribe her as a soldier, nor able to kill unapologetically. I hope she'll have an interestin character arc next season.. and that they explore that relationship properly, if it is supposed to be one.
 
Even if I wouldn't decribe her as a soldier, nor able to kill unapologetically. I hope she'll have an interestin character arc next season.. and that they explore that relationship properly, if it is supposed to be one.

True. She did have a hang-up about killing in e10.
 
Imagine at the end of TNG season 1 they throw in a shot of Dr Crusher holding hands with Reginald Barclay. I like the choice I just have to admit it is also really out of the blue. It's as sudden as Chakotay randomly being into her at the end of voyager.
Chakotay is more sudden, to my mind. Though I would simply describe it as her experimenting with Chakotay being available at the moment.

For Seven and Raffi both have suffered loss and have a shared pain. So they connect.
 
Something tells me if you were around in 1966 when Star trek premiered you would have lost your shit over Uhura and Sulu...having those colored people on there must seem 'cheap and forced'.

They didn't introduce 5 Asian main characters, or 5 black main characters in the space of 3 seasons back in 1966. Had they done, it would have been pandering, and felt forced. But they didn't.

It really isn't that hard a point to grasp.
 
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