If you look through those pages, they also left in the typewritten instructions for the original weapons station (the one with the giant globe) even though they have the handwritten diagram and instructions for the TMP version.
Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors (Version 2.0)
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^Yeah, I have that page.
Heh. I have the entire text of the book OCRed so @Harvey and I can search it.Personally, I wouldn't want to mix in my dirty laundry with food waste, but that's just me.
Good. God knows that I didn't want to.
Well, look at there, I stand, uh, sorry, I sit corrected. It's even positioned logically. Unless I'm mistaken about the following as well, the safe is positioned towards the end of that room divider and the food lot is offset from that, more towards the center.
I'll revise my idea to suggest when food slots are included in a given cabin, I imagine the storage is rather more limited and possibly the machinery a bit simplified compared to the rec room units, meaning the "menu" is a bit more restricted.
In my TOS project, when you interact with the cabin food slot, it only spits out beverages and ice cream, as opposed to the chicken sandwich and food cube platters that the rec room slots spit out
We never see landing parties beam down with water bottles, back packs nor picnic baskets. The food slots in the Transporter Room could provide food and beverages, then beamed down to the thirsty and hungry landing party on demand.
When I created a cutaway illustration of the TOS Enterprise based on Matt Jefferies’ art in TMoST, I went by the assumption there was one galley for centralized and specialized food preparation, but numerous staging areas around the ship where more basic elements needed for preparation by something like 3D printing technology could make a more limited menu for quick delivery. The basic menu takes a few seconds to deliver. The specialized menu from the central galley might take five minutes. That centralized galley could also be used by someone wanting to cook the old fashioned way.
DUDE.Got the food synthesizer textured and set up with lights and stuff. Gonna work on the display screens tomorrow.
What's that synth doing there? Haven't those guys been outlawed?
The way it works in my head canon is there's a galley (automated but with a supervisory staff and those with cooking hobbies) that prepares the food. The food slots are transporter receiving stations. The food is beamed to the slot by CLOSED-CIRCUIT transporter. All enclosed in the sytem, beamed through wires. No muss, no fuss.
Looking good Donny, but I have to ask if you think you'll be doing that HQ lounge from STIV now that you've made elements of it here?
Also, if you ever want to do the TUC galley, I have some stuff.
Also, if you ever want to do the TUC galley, I have some stuff.
In situ 3D printing in the slot vs. closed circuit transporter slot: two good possibilities. Lower tech would have the foods (plus plates and cups) made by 3D printing at a single automated facility, then beamed into the slot. Less equipment spread around the ship. Also, when the system goes on the brink, everyone suffers as seen on various Trek episodes. Example: tribbles get into the machinery; I doubt the in-situ printing would print tribbles, but tribbles crawling around the kitchen gets tribbles on the plate then beamed into the slot.
The main reason I favor the automated-dumbwaiter idea in TOS is that it explains how the tribbles got into Kirk's chicken sandwich and coffee. I suppose it's possible they could've infiltrated the preparation mechanism and been beamed along with the food, but you'd think an automated food-prep system where the food is beamed out would be enclosed for sanitary purposes, difficult to get into. But if the food is delivered through dumbwaiter tubes in the walls, that makes it less of an enclosed system and easier for the tribbles to infiltrate. Also, while they didn't have transporter biofilters yet, you'd think the excess mass of the tribbles on the tray would've registered with the transporter sensors and triggered an alarm or an abort or something.
Another reason is that there's no transporter sound effect before the door opens, just a sort of bloobley noise similar to the shuttlecraft interior ambience. I doubt that the food slot doors are soundproof; you'd probably want the sound to be audible to the user so that they'd know the food was coming.
Still, the closed-circuit transporter idea is a good one for the movie era, since the tech could've been introduced in the interim. And the mini-transporter station on the bridge appears to prove its existence at that time.
Another reason is that there's no transporter sound effect before the door opens, just a sort of bloobley noise similar to the shuttlecraft interior ambience. I doubt that the food slot doors are soundproof; you'd probably want the sound to be audible to the user so that they'd know the food was coming.
Still, the closed-circuit transporter idea is a good one for the movie era, since the tech could've been introduced in the interim. And the mini-transporter station on the bridge appears to prove its existence at that time.
Or the tribbles could have gotten into the food slots in the walls, and lie in wait for the food to materialize. They have demonstrated an ability to eat quickly (usually the more food available, the quicker they eat), so in the seconds before the door opens, those three tribbles could have eaten Kirk's chicken sandwich and drank his coffee. Or still been at it as he pulled out the tray (not an effect they would have attempted).
That sounds dangerous and messy. I don't think the transporter would activate if it detected an obstruction at the destination. And the tribbles wouldn't know to stay out of the way of the beam.
Isn’t intraship beaming described as extremely risky in Day of the Dove? Since its not the precision itself that is the problem, there must be fields or other interferences that are at play within the ship that may preclude a transporter based food delivery device.
I thought of that, but I figured the "closed-circuit" aspect would account for that. If it's all done inside the wall slots, then it would presumably be less subject to interference and more consistently targeted/calibrated. Plus it's a smaller mass being transported, which probably makes it easier.
Looked at some other shots of that part of the nacelles in the movie... my belief now is that it’s caused by the aztecing on that part of the nacelle. It shows up in varying degrees in the different shots. Some shots it looks like the whole section is a flat solid shade of grey - likely due to how the specific shot was lit and filmed. In the case of this shit, maybe it was shot without doing multiple passes like other shots of the ship and they just lit it best they could to get that dynamic self illuminated look? Maybe that could explain why these color variances of the aztecing stand out more in this shot?
