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Tribble Threat and JohnnyQuest put it better than I did, I thought it was too on the nose and cheesy that she focused on the invention of spaceships leading to the solution of problems. I would have liked it better if she had spoken of a brighter future in general with "mankind will figure out ways to feed the starving millions and cure diseases and we might even invent space ships and go to other planets" instead of "we'll have spaceships and the people on the spaceships will save us"
Yes, exactly. Even if she talked about mankind banding together and solving our problems together, that could've worked and come off as insightful. But the "The men who go on these spaceships will solve everything, you guys!" speech just sounds like she caught last week's episode.
 
Yes, exactly. Even if she talked about mankind banding together and solving our problems together, that could've worked and come off as insightful. But the "The men who go on these spaceships will solve everything, you guys!" speech just sounds like she caught last week's episode.

Got to say, I never had a problem with it. :shrug:
 
Got to say, I never had a problem with it. :shrug:
Me, neither.

In my opinion, the intention was to trigger recognition of the idea that she's envisioning specifically the kind of future that Kirk's ship inhabits. The infuriating, tragic irony of the episode is that it is the one who sees the future who has to be sacrificed to bring it about. There needs to be an economy of language to convey that point. Calling to mind what we saw last week on Star Trek fits that bill to a tee.
 
There needs to be an economy of language to convey that point.
An economy of language is fine. But Edith describing pretty much exactly what we see on Star Trek every week is just dumb.
Calling to mind what we saw last week on Star Trek fits that bill to a tee.
"And then, these men who go out into space will occasionally fight a lizard man called a 'Gorn.' But a telepathic alien in a sparkly toga will break up the fight before the guy who looks just like that fellow in the red plaid shirt directly on my right can finish the Gorn off..."
 
I mean let's not forget that Twilight (remember that movie/book?) also won awards and that has dialogue and narration that's too dumb to believe.
So...
 
Now how about this:

I don't get what's so great about "City on the Edge of Forever"

I don't like time travel stories into Earth's past, but even beyond that I find the episode boring.
Edith Keeler comes off as crazy for rambling at homeless people that they shouldn't give up hope because "one day we will have spaceships! (Edit: it seems I must add: ) And the men in the spaceships will solve all our problems! :biggrin:"
And how am I supposed to take the idea that Edith is Kirk's "One Tru Wuv" seriously when the guy has a new "romantic" interest every other week? (Plus, love in Star Trek, particularly TOS and TNG, is mostly portrayed as pretty cheap anyway, with people falling in love at the drop of a hat, or rather whenever a beautiful/handsome guest star shows up, only to forget about it by the end of the episode)
I dont watch alot of TOS i just know Old school fans like that episode
 
The NX-01 Refit is neither logical, nor appealing.

We're shoving in a second hull (from where?) to the NX design to make it look topheavy and redudant with a new deflector dish AND the mouthpiece dish, no new shuttlebay, and making a double-hulled ship a hundred years before the connie, again, out of nowhere.

The only pass I can see is if the Daedalus was ever introduced into the show and they put two and two together, but it never came to be.

As it stands, the 'Saucer' shape evolved out of triangular designs to a semi-circle to a full saucer; and the big spherical ships are still mostly non-canon save for a few designs on desks.

The secondary hull basically just appears with the Kelvin and it's already 'mature' then (deflector dish in front, shuttle bay in back, conical shape, overhang), and the shows are not going to answer the question of lineage anytime soon because it's just not important to them.

Overall I admit - it's a minor thing, but damn is it grating to me.

Edit: this might be much more unpopular and relevant:

I don't like the Connie Refit or the Excelsior class aesthetically.
 
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Here's a couple of unpopular opinions I don't think I've mentioned in this thread before:

-I don't like the look of the Voyager very much. It always looked like a shoehorn or a garden spade.

-While I usually love Jerry Goldsmith's music (His TMP and Planet of the Apes scores are amazing), I've never cared for the VOY theme. It's not heroic or majestic like the TMP/TNG theme, and it never really seems like it gets going. It's just kind of... there.
 
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