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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"

Rate Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"


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Can't wait for the final episode so I don't have read any more posts about Picard transferring his mind to an android, or whether Soong is really Lore, or any of the androids are based on Lore, or if the big bad is control. It's time to put these cockamamie theories to rest.
Picard defeats Lore-Soong and becomes an android. He then speechifies the remaining Lorebots and they all confront Control together. Lore-Sutra escapes, but has merged with Control. We are teased with a scene of her in season 3 of Discovery.
 
Small quibble: after experiencing the admonition, Sutra uses Spock's catchphrase, "fascinating". She should have used Data's catchphrase, "intriguing".
She should have laughed evilly, suddenly grew a mustache she could twirl, and said "now I can put my uncle Lore's evil plan in motion".
 
He did have a child with the female Q (Susie Plakson). Maybe this is all some messed-up learning exercise for the baby Q.
 
Fallacious means misleading or deceptive.

You are, once again, incorrect. "Fallacious" is an adjective and means "based on a mistaken belief."

… The writers themselves basically support me as they, themselves reinterpret, throw out, and retcon things all the time. They also canonize things from TAS and fan work piecemeal while others don’t acknowledge it at all. …

The difference between they and thee is that the writers are duly authorized to make those decisions and act upon them … you are not.

I stand by it fully. …

You said "This is only an odd concept to you for the sake of this particular argument." That is without a doubt a personal attack. Show where I have been inconsistent or disingenuous? An honorable individual would retract and apologize for making such an unsubstantiated assertion.
 
I voted 9 on this episode, but I kinda want to revise upwards to 10. This is not only a strong homage to TNG, it's also the closest thing to a TOS episode we've *ever* got.
Closest thing to a TOS episode we ever got?:wtf::guffaw:

From this TOS fan who was watching TOS first run on NBC my response:

"LOL - hardly. if you think this episode was the closest thing to a TOS episode we ever got in this new era of Star Trek, honestly, you really need to go rewatch TOS."
 
Closest thing to a TOS episode we ever got?:wtf::guffaw:

If some feel this episode of "Picard" was the "closest thing to a TOS episode" more power to them. Nothing funny about it.

From this TOS fan who was watching TOS first run on NBC my response:

Strikes me as a bit odd you keep restating you are a "TOS fan who has been watching Star Trek since it first aired on NBC." First, it is a logical fallacy when used in making an argument and secondly, many of us here have also been fans since the beginning. In no way does that claim support or undermine any ones point-of-view or opinion. It is merely a false claim of authority.

"LOL - hardly. if you think this episode was the closest thing to a TOS episode we ever got in this new era of Star Trek, honestly, you really need to go rewatch TOS."

Again, you actually say nothing here except to disparage someone elses opinion. You in no way provide examples or evidence.
 
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I think Q's story with Picard is fairly well wrapped up, so bringing him back feels unnecessary, from a story point of view. Like your view of Lore I feel that Q's story has ended well.

I agree that Q's story with Picard was wrapped up beautifully in the TNG series finale, however, I too would still love to see Q revisit Picard - only if John de Lancie is up to it though. I would say because it deals with sentient life throughout the universe it would be suitably grand enough to justify him to show up and perhaps counsel Picard as he has done before.
 
You said "This is only an odd concept to you for the sake of this particular argument." That is without a doubt a personal attack.
I don't happen to see it that way, but if you think it is, use the Report function. Accusing someone of a personal attack is itself getting personal, and that needs to stop.
 
Elnor is becoming a foil for Seven of Nine (he's as innocent as much as she's world-weary and cynical).
 
He did have a child with the female Q (Susie Plakson). Maybe this is all some messed-up learning exercise for the baby Q.
Q already taught q a lesson like that with the first time Icheb died.

I'd like to think the final episode will feature Picard literally on his deathbed with all of his crew/loved ones surrounding him, including Wesley. Then in a flash Q appears to say "Goodbye, mon capitan."
 
Picard wakes up in his new android body, Clancy shows up and starts going off on him, and he becomes the Destroyer after having enough with her. :lol:
That android body is going to look like Altan Inigo Soong though, since that's who it's made for. I strongly suspect that Picard might die next episode (all the goodbyes this episode etc.) and Data will be resurrected in a human-like body to soften the blow for Trek fans.
 
I will be incredibly surprised if Picard is killed off.

Wasn't the entire series filmed before the decision to do Season 2 was made?

My guess is the series will end with Picard in an ambiguous place, terminal yet not dead. Often times with aged actors (IE SPS), even without the current situation, they don't want to leave loose ends left untied should he shuffle loose the mortal coil
 
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