Spoilers Episode 7 "Nepenthe"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by NCC-73515, Feb 28, 2020.

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Rate 1x07 Nepenthe

  1. 10 - Wild Beard Riker

    109 vote(s)
    36.8%
  2. 9

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  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5 - Full Beard Riker

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  7. 4

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  10. 1 - Season 1 Riker

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  1. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    She did it in an earlier episode.
     
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  2. Llywela

    Llywela Commander Red Shirt

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    We've seen the head tilt in previous episodes. Fans commented on it at the time.
     
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  4. ITDUDE

    ITDUDE Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Second time, but first time when it was noticed by another character.
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    EDIT: Ninja'd by mere moments :D
     
  5. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    Damn, totally missed that the first time. Very cool.
     
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    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    It's the 24th Century, her ass will be gently guided to New Zealand where she will pick fruit and learn carpentry until someone (Probably Janeway) needs her particular set of skills.
     
  7. ThreeEdgedSword

    ThreeEdgedSword Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Nah, she'll say she's sorry, she thought it was for saving mankind, and everyone will forgive her. No biggie. Maddox wasn't a regular. (Brian Brophy notwithstanding.)
     
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    Ryan Thomas Riddle Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Looks like a Conspiracy critter makes for a good pizza topping.
     
  9. Qonundrum

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    And then she went down on his sausage. Mmmmm, bunnicorn sausage. :-9
     
  10. Bollie74

    Bollie74 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I don't think anyone pointed this out, sorry if it's a repeat. Isn't it all kinds of crappy that Jonathan Frakes is called out in the opening credits, Jeri Ryan is called out in the opening credits, but Marina Sirtis is a special guest star dropped in the closing credits? Why not do Frakes and Sirtis together in the opening?
     
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    Bunnicorn is omnipotent meat. It never goes bad.
     
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  12. fireproof78

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    I believe I read there was timing issues fir the sequence.
     
  13. SolarisOne

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    And a medical doctor on top of that.
    Chabon confirmed it explicitly.
     
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  14. thribs

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    I wish they would stop doing that. It just spoils the reveal.
     
  15. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    How an actor is listed in the credits depends entirely on how they request to be listed in the credits. Jonathan Frakes and Jeri Ryan were listed in the opening credits because that's what they requested. Marina Sirtis is not listed in the opening credits because she did not request it.
    If the actor requests it, they have to do it. Besides, these are all people we've known were going to be in the show since the summer. There was no reveal to spoil.

    And before anyone brings up times where a surprise cameo is withheld until the end credits, that's done with the actor's permission. The actor is well within their rights to refuse this request, even if it "spoils the reveal."
     
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  16. thribs

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    Why would Jeri Ryan request it? Seems like a odd thing for her to demand.
     
  17. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The question we should be asking is why didn't Marina Sirtis request it?
     
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  18. Bad Thoughts

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    Generally, it would be nice to see Sirtis up front. However, there are some complicated mechanics that talent agents use to determine what kind of credit they would prefer their actors to have over others. I can't claim to understand it, but it's there.
     
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  19. picardjean-luc

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    Exactly. IMO Sirtis gave one of her stronger performances as Deanna Troi in any Trek series in 'Nepenthe.' Troi used her talents and experience as a counselor in conseling both Picard and Soji and these scenes were better acted than 90 percent of her TNG screen time. In TNG usually Troi was treated as either a sex object or a passive victim of the alien guest-star-of-the-week who either emotionally abused or 'mind-raped' her. Sirtis has also spoke out repeatedly about how TNG show-runners had mishandled her character so much thoughout the series run.

    I think some explanations from the 'Picard' show runners are in order now. Otherwise, the apparently unequal labeling in the opening/closing credits could've resulted in many Sirtis/Troi fans accusing them of 'mistreating' her again :confused::confused:.
     
  20. Bollie74

    Bollie74 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Thanks to you and the others, I assumed a slight where perhaps there was none. I also thought she did a great job in the episode...
     
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