Star Trek Picard is not Star Trek

[Dale Sams]

For God's sake, Pike was tortured with hellfire and brimstone in the very first STAR TREK episode ever. And the Talosians punished Vina by inflicting pain on her as well.

In fact it looks like ( and may well be) that his skin is melting.

Not to mention what he looks like in The Menagerie. LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BELOVED PIKE!!!

 

[fireproof78]

In fact it looks like ( and may well be) that his skin is melting.

Not to mention what he looks like in The Menagerie. LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BELOVED PIKE!!!

#notmypike

 

[The Old Mixer]

And before that, we had those guards torn apart off-camera by the Id monster.

 

[Hythlodeus]

And before that, we had those guards torn apart off-camera by the Id monster.

Captain Frank Drebin surely was the worst Starfleet Captain ever!

 

[The Old Mixer]

surely

(Nah, too obvious...)

 

[Gonzo]

Captain Frank Drebin surely was the worst Starfleet Captain ever!

Captain of the USS Naked Gun

Which is an excellent choice as a name for a Defiant class ship.

 

[cooleddie74]

In fact it looks like ( and may well be) that his skin is melting.

Not to mention what he looks like in The Menagerie. LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BELOVED PIKE!!!

[Don Corleone] Look how they massacred my canon... [/Don Corleone]

 

[__Roger__]

I completely agree with you Forever94, in the first post in this discussion. ST:PIC is Dystopian Trek and not Roddenberry Trek (which I also call True Trek), which I feel largely ended with his passing. Gone is the hopeful future where humanity has matured far beyond its current state and for the most part as Forever94 notes where "humans live in peace, respecting all forms of Life, aspiring to be better persons and know the universe we are surrounded by, surpassing racism, arrogance, hate, war..." and use technology responsibly. The Federation is now xenophobic and withdrawn, and the synth attack represents technology out-of-control and/or easily subverted - and also suggests that humanity has once again embraced slavery in a new form. This is outrageous and at complete odds with true Star Trek values, where humanity has evolved far beyond that possibility. ST:PIC is potentially valid as a cautionary tale, but True Trek has generally featured humanity's responsible mastery of technology and the resolution of current problems, not its most terrible failures. So instead of a Trek that embodies a hopeful future to which we can aspire, we are left with a perpetually depressing series infused with failure on almost every level. Instead of featuring the wonders of the universe, productive and mutually enriching cooperation between intelligent species, and wondrous technological development, we are provided with a morbid space soap opera featuring characters filled with angst. I consider ST:PIC a complete failure of the franchise, and a depressing outcome for the Picard character, in spite of spectacular production values, and in spite of the fun of seeing characters again that we have missed for some time. I also consider the recent wave of movies to be devoid of the Roddenberry spirit, and little more than mundane conflict drama acted out by people in appropriated Starfleet uniforms. I also completely reject the "Kelvin Timeline" as Fake Trek. There was no need to destroy Vulcan, etc. That was done merely for cheap shock value. But I digress. It seems that we will never see True Trek again from the powers that be, though it will still be possible in Fan Fiction, which I encourage. True Trek fans can still keep the spirit alive through their own story writing, regardless of what the franchise controlling powers, interested primarily in profit and speaking to the lowest common denominator, dictate for the rest of us.

 

[Campe]

Oh yay, giant walls of text.

 

[Hythlodeus]

cool story, bro

 

[cooleddie74]

[William F. Buckley, Jr. taps pencil on chin and smiles]

 

[The Old Mixer]

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[Nerys Myk]

New episode, new hater. Can't wait to find out who next week's mystery hater will be.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

who am i to say no to the Captain of the Enterprise??

Be careful. Last person who said that wound up dead under a bridge...

 

[Campe]

New episode, new hater. Can't wait to find out who next week's mystery hater will be.

It just seems en vogue at the moment to be up in arms about something with Picard from week to week.

 

[The Old Mixer]

New episode, new hater. Can't wait to find out who next week's mystery hater will be.

Spoiler

Brian Brophy!

 

[Agony_Boothb]

To show how much I'm fully behind Gene's vision, I wrote crappy lyrics for the Picard theme so I can get a cut of the royalties.

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[Enterprise is Great]

New episode, new hater. Can't wait to find out who next week's mystery hater will be.

Sounds like the next not so great reality show from Fox.

 

[fireproof78]

Nope.

Next.

 

[Aragorn]

I was always under the impression that Star Trek was about humanity overcoming its prejudices and arrogance to unite as one species... and be prejudiced and arrogant toward everyone else in the galaxy.