Spoilers Episode 7 "Nepenthe"

[Noname Given]

Holodeck safety protocols. There's usually a command level override to get around those. Why would a replicator be different?

It wouldn't - but given she's a medical doctor too (yeah I think that's stretching it too, but her character is); she would have the authority (from Rios) to override whatever she needs to as hey, SHE'S A DOCTOR.

 

[Yistaan]

It wouildn't - but given she'sa medical doctor too (yeah I think that's stretching it too, but her character is); she would have the authority (from Rios) to override whatever she needs to as hey, SHE'S A DOCTOR.

She's a doctorate of cybernetics, not medicine. The MD's only in the noncanon novel, which is about as canon as say, Star Trek Countdown is now.

If Jurati's a medical doctor in Picard due to a non-canon novel, then the supernova that destroyed Romulus was Hobus due to a non canon comic. You can't pick and choose your noncanon.

 

[Noname Given]

She's a doctorate of cybernetics, not medicine. That's only in the noncanon novel, which is about as canon as say, Star Trek Countdown is now.

If Jurati's a medical doctor in Picard due to a non-canon novel, then the supernova that destroyed Romulus was Hobus due to a non canon comic. You can't pick and choose your noncanon.

She seemed to do pretty well with Maddox (IE - yes, she was able to use the equipment to find out exactly what the Syndicate did to him, and started the correct treatments; and only when everyone left/no one was looking (save the EMH who somehow didn't report anything); she stopped so Maddox would die.

As far as Rios and everyone else there was concerned, she was the medical doctor now on his ship.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Here's a real huge oddity that, while not necessarily a contradiction per se, seems very jarring when you think about Soji's job description.

Soji was sent, despite her not knowing it, to the Borg cube to learn info. She has android level intelligence. She knows things about the Borg cube even Hugh didn't, without understanding why. She hungrily seeks knowledge, even going through the trouble of learning alien languages without a translator.

Yet when faced with 2 of the most infamous men in Borg history, Riker and Picard, at no time does she show signs of recognition. Nor any sign of recognition of the name Data, or any reaction that her "father" along with Riker saved the galaxy from the Borg after Wolf 359 and later outwitted the Borg Queen herself. Keep in mind Picard's fame among the Borg is so huge that to this day, on the very cube Soji worked on for 3 years, he's instantly recognized as Locutus.

This would be as jarring as a high level researcher being employed by Apple for 3 years and not knowing who Bill Gates is.

The odd part is that her twin sister, Dahj, immediately felt a sense of trust when she met Picard and was drawn to find Picard after she was activated, and the pilot episode even explained that it was because of her having Data's neuron and Data's connection to Picard. Sohji also has Data's neuron essence so logically she should also have that same subconscious trust for Picard.

 

[Longinus]

Holodeck safety protocols. There's usually a command level override to get around those. Why would a replicator be different?

I can't even re-enter a shopping entry on self-checkout in the real world without a supermarket clearance code from an employee. Again, this isn't Agnes' ship. If Rios were the one ordering the dangerous chemicals, I have no doubt he could do it as he's the captain.

You are yet again inventing a problem.

 

[Vger23]

I'd be shocked if they kill Riker (or Troi). That's just not something they can do without risking pissing off a LARGE chunk of the fanbase.

What you might see though is Riker using his seemingly intact clout with Starfleet (clout that Picard has lost) to give him passage on the Enterprise and go on a mission to save Picard.

Dear God...the key grip who worked on episode 2 and 3 can't wipe his runny nose on his sleeve without pissing off a LARGE chunk of the fanbase.

I doubt anyone cares about pissing off the fanbase at this point. At least, they shouldn't.

 

[Yistaan]

She seemed to do pretty well with Maddox (IE - yes, she was able to use the equipment to find out exactly what the Syndicate did to him, and started the correct treatments; and only when everyone left/no one was looking (save the EMH who somehow didn't report anything); she stopped so Maddox would die.

As far as Rios and everyone else there was concerned, she was the medical doctor now on his ship.

You do know that won't get anywhere in the real world right? Pharmacies aren't going to start prescribing risky stuff on behalf of someone who has medical knowledge but no MD. Why would a replicator?

 

[Tuskin38]

I guess the federation letting a child die just goes to show the TNG federation is well and truly dead.

It isn't, and we've seen the federation refuse to do things to help people before because it was illegal.

I think Control is going to be the big villain on this show.

It won't be.

 

[Racefuel]

I really, really doubt we're going to be seeing Riker and Troi again this season...Jon Frakes said they more or less filmed their stuff for Picard in less than a day

 

[Yistaan]

I really, really doubt we're going to be seeing Riker and Troi again this season...Jon Frakes said they more or less filmed their stuff for Picard in less than a day

Hey he spoiled the Mirror stuff for Discovery, CBS probably threatened to put him in the brig if he spoiled anything else.

Jonathan del Arco tweeted he hoped Guinan and Hugh would meet in Season 2. He already knew Hugh was very dead.

I think we can't trust what they say because they are trying to hide spoilers.

The odd part is that her twin sister, Dahj, immediately felt a sense of trust when she met Picard and was drawn to find Picard after she was activated, and the pilot episode even explained that it was because of her having Data's neuron and Data's connection to Picard. Sohji also has Data's neuron essence so logically she should also have that same subconscious trust for Picard.

I noticed that too. Maddox could have explained how they were different. With him dead, he can't. And Soji was predicted as the destroyer while no one said anything about Dahj. Hmm...

 

[Roboturner913]

The odd part is that her twin sister, Dahj, immediately felt a sense of trust when she met Picard and was drawn to find Picard after she was activated, and the pilot episode even explained that it was because of her having Data's neuron and Data's connection to Picard. Sohji also has Data's neuron essence so logically she should also have that same subconscious trust for Picard.

I just read it as Soji's psychological trauma blocking any feelings of trust she may have had, because she doesn't know what's real anymore. Dahj was confused and scared but wasn't doubting her very existence at the point she approached Picard.

 

[Racefuel]

Really pissed off about Hugh dying and I guess the federation letting a child die just goes to show the TNG federation is well and truly dead.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one is a Vulcan concept that the entire Federation has adopted.

Was it reactionary to ban synths? Yes, but tens of thousands of people had just died....It's unreasonable to think that they'd reverse an entire policy to save one child.

 

[Tuskin38]

You do know that won't get anywhere in the real world right? Pharmacies aren't going to start prescribing risky stuff on behalf of someone who has medical knowledge but no MD. Why would a replicator?

How do you know she didn't override the safeties? She didn't use voice commands she just tapped the panel.

 

[Yistaan]

I just read it as Soji's psychological trauma blocking any feelings of trust she may have had, because she doesn't know what's real anymore. Dahj was confused and scared but wasn't doubting her very existence at the point she approached Picard.

Except it was quite obvious Dahj was specifically programmed to trust Picard. Dahj even said she never saw him before.

Why didn't Soji get this programming?

How do you know she didn't override the safeties? She didn't use voice commands she just tapped the panel.

That's very possible.

 

[Kor]

Dahj also had the "mom" AI telling her to go find Picard. So for some reason Dahj was programmed to seek out Picard.

Kor

 

[Yistaan]

Dahj also had the "mom" AI telling her to go find Picard. So for some reason Dahj was programmed to seek out Picard.

Kor

The Mom only said that after Dahj contacted him. Dahj was programmed to trust Picard, as an insurance once she activated. Soji did not have this programming. I think this may be a very important point as time goes on. I know the writers can be sloppy, but I think this plot point is intended.

 

[Vger23]

I just read it as Soji's psychological trauma blocking any feelings of trust she may have had, because she doesn't know what's real anymore. Dahj was confused and scared but wasn't doubting her very existence at the point she approached Picard.

Agreed...or they may have been created for different purposes, and therefore have different "programming"

 

[Roboturner913]

Maybe since they were on two very different missions they were programmed with different "instincts" or whatever you call it as a means of self-preservation.

 

[Longinus]

Dahj also had the "mom" AI telling her to go find Picard. So for some reason Dahj was programmed to seek out Picard.

Kor

And Dahj was 'stationed' on Earth, where Picard was as well. So it made sense to have her programmed to seek him. Would have helped Soji way less if she was threatened at the Artefact.

 

[Yistaan]

The irony being Soji has far more reason than Dahj, even without any "programming", to know who Picard is. The Borg she worked with have a huge history with Picard. The Daystrom Institute, not so much.