These languages were also an implicit lesson in trust for Soji and Kestra. It's not a callback to Darmok, but it is certainly in its spirit.
Spoilers Episode 7 "Nepenthe"
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Thanks. Could have sworn I remember her from VOY, but I didn't watch that show very closely, so...
Jurati made the reference
That's right. Thank you.
CBS gained the rights some time in the last eighteen months, IIRC.
it sure does. there#s still no thread about the missing Riker ManeuverThat’s it! I knew this forum wouldn’t disappoint
Loved the episode! Not just how it fits within this seasons arc, but also from every technical aspect possible.
The music… Wow, I think Jeff Russo's work is very, very underrated… I am just loving what he's doing with Trek, and no Trek composer before has ever made such a strong attempt at utilizing past and current themes in the episodes as well as he does. He goes back and uses themes from TOS, TNG, VOY... and his own brilliant Picard theme! I am also loving how he really writes emotive scores to these episodes... Shout out to Jeff!
The photography… Man, it's just gorgeous… Sometimes functionally hand held, sometimes incredibly stylistic dolly shots and an awesome use of depth of focus. Trek has never looked this good I think…
The production design,effects and lighting… This too, is just incredible… That shot of Narek stepping into a Romulan scout ship alone is just beautiful...
I am loving this series more and more, and it kind of breaks my heart to see influential youtubers out there bent on destroying this series... I do however believe their influence will diminish in time... I think more and more people -even the haters- are realizing that this show is actually worthy of being called Star Trek... I for one regard it as one the best things ever done with Trek...
The music… Wow, I think Jeff Russo's work is very, very underrated… I am just loving what he's doing with Trek, and no Trek composer before has ever made such a strong attempt at utilizing past and current themes in the episodes as well as he does. He goes back and uses themes from TOS, TNG, VOY... and his own brilliant Picard theme! I am also loving how he really writes emotive scores to these episodes... Shout out to Jeff!
The photography… Man, it's just gorgeous… Sometimes functionally hand held, sometimes incredibly stylistic dolly shots and an awesome use of depth of focus. Trek has never looked this good I think…
The production design,effects and lighting… This too, is just incredible… That shot of Narek stepping into a Romulan scout ship alone is just beautiful...
I am loving this series more and more, and it kind of breaks my heart to see influential youtubers out there bent on destroying this series... I do however believe their influence will diminish in time... I think more and more people -even the haters- are realizing that this show is actually worthy of being called Star Trek... I for one regard it as one the best things ever done with Trek...
I feel the same way. It saddens me to see this toxic fandom that has to trash everything that does not cater to what they want. Picard is a great show. It is Star Trek. It's just different. I guess some folks can't handle different.
That's the only way this one-line namedrop would make sense. I mean, I don't see them shelling out X amount of dollars to Niven just to say "we mentioned the Kzinti!" when they could namedrop all sorts of other placeholders (Xindi, Tzenkethi, "the Patriarchy") or other obscure wholly owned references (Nausicaans, Orions, Osaarians, Axanar).
Jimmy Diggs went around fifteen years ago promoting a Kzinti return with a BTS booklet on how they could be integrated legally and fictionally with the Star Trek Universe. That's why Coto was working on an Enterprise Season 5 episode with them. Maybe Diggs dusted it off and showed it to Kurtzman or Chabon, and they decided to look into it and test the waters of audience interest with this line.
Or maybe Mike McMahan at Lower Decks, with his TAS fascination (Caitians), insisted on bringing back the Kzinti, so CBS got the rights and tossed in a reference in this episode, which also references gormaganders, in order to pre-connect the series.
nah. it's not that. it has nothing to do with Star Trek at all. It's a culture war declared by a couple of people that can't get laid and use popular IP's to rage and poison the minds of their viewers.
I find it hard to respect the opinions of users of this website. How this episode, in fact all episodes of this series get mostly 8, 9 and 10 ratings. What makes this episode an 8+ out of 10? (10 out of 10 means an episode is perfect with no flaws, the best television can get). Do those who score this 10/10 think this episode is amongst the best tv they have ever seen?. Put aside that STP is boring, badly paced, character assassinating, canon breaking dross; this episode was especially uninteresting and schmaltzy. You can see a mile off that they are going to get 7 of 9 (possibly Picard) to reactivate the Borgs on the cube and assimilate the resident romulans...yawn.
Just took in episode 7.
Lots of warm nostalgia in this one. Very much enjoyed seeing Troi and Riker again, and Kestra had a lot of personality- stole every scene, basically.
What I DID NOT like was another example of the weaponization / trivialization of the Vulcan mind meld. You'll know exactly whereof I speak when you see the scene. Remember the slow, emotion-laden, angsty times Spock and Sarek would reluctantly agree to a meld in TOS and the TOS movies? Long gone are those days. Now it should be relabeled 'Vulcan mental rape.'
As time goes on, the crew of the ship are becoming a side show- does Picard actually really need them for anything? Other than a taxi service, I guess.
End of a character we were excited to see again. The return of another character we were excited to see again is coming, probably next week.
Loved how the quiet, rustic Troi-Riker spread was 'fully equipped' with tech embedded behind the scenes. That's how I imagine it would really be.
Okay, this episode had a few chinks in the armor but I'm still fully on board with it. Engaging me 1000x more than Disco.
Lots of warm nostalgia in this one. Very much enjoyed seeing Troi and Riker again, and Kestra had a lot of personality- stole every scene, basically.
What I DID NOT like was another example of the weaponization / trivialization of the Vulcan mind meld. You'll know exactly whereof I speak when you see the scene. Remember the slow, emotion-laden, angsty times Spock and Sarek would reluctantly agree to a meld in TOS and the TOS movies? Long gone are those days. Now it should be relabeled 'Vulcan mental rape.'
As time goes on, the crew of the ship are becoming a side show- does Picard actually really need them for anything? Other than a taxi service, I guess.
End of a character we were excited to see again. The return of another character we were excited to see again is coming, probably next week.
Loved how the quiet, rustic Troi-Riker spread was 'fully equipped' with tech embedded behind the scenes. That's how I imagine it would really be.
Okay, this episode had a few chinks in the armor but I'm still fully on board with it. Engaging me 1000x more than Disco.
You make a good point. I've definitely seen these youtube channels that are constantly raging against a perceived SJW agenda in every movie or franchise. It's ridiculous.
You must be joking. Picard and/or Seven helping to assimilate people would be like Trump singing the International!!!
I know a lot of people hate this, but the interstellar transporter technology that Spock Prime brought back in time should exist by now... So theoretically couldn't they be doing this without the "Prime Factors" tech? And I can't imagine Kurtzman is shy about bringing in something established in movies he wrote.
Someone didn't watch
Arrow.
I thought you said he was recast? Or did they bring in a different plank?
I assume he was named after his true father, Thadiun Okona.
Rocket: That's a made up word!
Thor: All words are made up.
He could fit in oddly well. Neelix, while kind of obnoxious at times, was a shining light despite his past, which is probably more "grimdark" than any of the Picard characters.
(EDIT: Just to clarify, yes I realize this was intended as a joke.)
Haven't seen the new one, but spotted it was TV-MA-LV. What earned the "MA" other than profanity? (And especially the "-V"?) Other than
apparently. Was Hugh's death gruesome?
look again and you'll find 10/10 means actually Wild Beard Riker
Well, to be fair, we really don't know how much damage had been done to Icheb before the removal of his eye implant.
That lady could have already been hacking at his body for some time searching for his nonexistent cortical node.
There were indications of that with his uniform having large holes cut in it.
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