Seems like it knows what it wants to be to me. Old man trying to fix a mistake of his past and maybe trying to be a bit heroic in the process.
It is essentially a character on a nostalgia trip.
Star Trek Picard is not Star Trek
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Seems like it knows what it wants to be to me. Old man trying to fix a mistake of his past and maybe trying to be a bit heroic in the process.
It is essentially a character on a nostalgia trip.
Picard seems to know exactly what it wants to be. Tell one long 10 part story about an old hero who had lost his way finding it again.
I dunno. I am starting to get a better idea of what it wants to be. It certainly knows what it doesn't want to be, and that is a sequel to TNG. I don't think episodic could work because putting the elderly Captain back on the bridge for a new adventure every week seems like a stretch and also seems like something Stewart explicitly had no interest in doing.
When his penance is over sometime after the 2nd season, he'll be hit with metaphasic radiation (see, I'm one of the 53 people who watched Insurrection!) and the role will be handed off to James McAvoy, who will oddly refer to himself as Leto and his former self as Gurney as he gets used to his new regeneration. Alec Newman will show up as Malik for an awkward moment mumbling "my son" until it's explained this is not a Dune convention, and just because Spiner came back, AGAIN, doesn't mean anyone who acted with him gets to come back. The end.
Pretty much my read on it.
More and more it strikes me that there is a strong desire for it to be wrapped up in a couple of episodes, rather than the current format.
Aka "drama"
I don't have any idea what you mean by this. Can you elaborate?
Yeah, to me it goes back to the question of what's the measure of a man? And I don't think it's coincidental that it harkens back to the TNG episode of that name. Is a person measured by their strength, intellect, power, ability to influence people, their status in life? If so, our hero has lost a lot of those traits to age. But perhaps each of us is more than the sum of our parts. Data was. Soji is and perhaps Picard is, too.
Well this is rather bizarre criticism.
This doesn't really goes against my point, I'm not saying that Kate Mulgrew is a bad actress, quite the contrary: I'm saying that if you put a different actor on the same role the show would look pale in comparison.
Especially if that actor was to be a man.
With a male captain VOY would just be a different ENT imho
You think you are trying to not be sexist, but you still definitely come off as one.
VOY and ENT are polar-opposites. A lot of VOY plots depended on advanced tech. ENT plots depended on none of that technology being in place yet or being super-primitive. In ENT, Earth is under Vulcan's thumb. On VOY, Voyager is under no one's thumb. VOY had to integrate two crews. ENT didn't have to do that. VOY was cut-off from the rest of the Quadrant, ENT wasn't. Janeway has charisma. Archer has whatever it is he has. Torres is definitely not Trip. Chakotay is definitely not T'Pol. Seven is an ex-drone who has to rediscover humanity and constantly butts heads with Janeway in a pseudo mother/daughter relationship. T'Pol represents Vulcan and Archer represents Earth. The dynamics are reversed. Earth is the child, Vulcan is the parent. VOY doesn't have ridiculous decontamination scenes and none of the characters on VOY remind me of Bush.
They're not the same show. Anyone who says so is being superficial. They were produced by the same production team. They aired on UPN. That's where the similarities stop.
Most important, I can actually sit through VOY. I still, to this day, cannot get into ENT for the life of me.
They're not the same show. Anyone who says so is being superficial. They were produced by the same production team. They aired on UPN. That's where the similarities stop.
Most important, I can actually sit through VOY. I still, to this day, cannot get into ENT for the life of me.
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It wants to be a 10-hour long movie, and so far it is succeeding in that.
The first portion of this 10-hour movie (like any movie) introduced characters and set up the premise, the next couple of portion found those characters carrying out the action driven by the story. Along the way, those characters run into problems (both plot problems and personal problems) that puts them and their plan-of-action at risk. I'm assuming the final portion of the story will have them overcome and resolve the problems they encountered around the middle part.
I suppose the tone of each episode might vary a little (the Freecloud/Stardust City Episode comes to mind), but that is minimal and serves to offer up a little variety and separate the each episode "chapter." However, the overall tone has so far been consistent throughout, and is very much in line with the general storyline being told -- which is of a man disillusioned with the same institutions he once revered in his past, and who is still harboring some guilt over the ultimate sacrifice a friend made to trade his own life to save Picard's. Picard sets out on a quest that might serve to help him come to terms with both of those issues.
That storyline has not wavered since it was presented to us early on. There are some side issues with the characters (such as Raffi and her personal demons), but those serve to add depth the the supporting characters, which is common for any well-told story.
You can label me what you want I don't care. My opinion is still that voyager is good mostly because the captain woman did a good job at being a captain woman.
As for the ENT part, I was comparing the two not because they have the same plot obviously but because imagine a world where VOY had Scott Bakula as a captain and then tell me again that you like it more than ENT
I am not saying it's impossible, just that I find it hard to believe
It does beg the question: what did Berman want Star Trek to be? Piller brought the consistency, which Enterprise clearly did not have.
True but nothing about them being the core of the fleet. And we know washouts like Merrick think Starship Captains are pretty special. What we don't know if all starships are like the Enterprise. Or if the Enterprise and her 11/12 sisters are just one type of starship.
Star Trek humans 'loved' each other but just hated other nonhumans..watch Balance of Terror, listen to how McCoy deals with Spock's physiology. Real enlightened medical attitude
Human bigtory did not disappear, it just changed targets.
They are too busy doing their Masters in Love instructing
Methinks it is time to ban the word from the site...
"What do we want...Utopia! When do we want it. Never!
I dunno. I think every actor brings their own personality to a role. Mulgrew brought her personality, which might be partially shaped by being a woman, but her personalty is not only shaped by that. A different actor -- whether it be a different woman or a different man -- would make the character different, but there is no reason to believe the character would necessarily be worse if it were a man.
Having said that, I'm glad Janeway was a woman, but that doesn't mean that a (yet another) male captain would have necessarily been a bad captain or a poor character.
Along with 'Gene's vision'. Only prophets have visions...and folks on LDS! Er….(er... ignore that last bit)Can we ban "canon," too? Pretty please!
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