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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x03 - "The End is the Beginning"

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It's surprising that sophisticated ST fans didn't get that she was speaking allegorically. Chateau Picard was a refuge and a place of safety and she had no such place. It's was basically to guilt trip Picard and remind him that he emotionally abandoned her when she needed him.

Many Star Trek fans aren't that into that degree of subtlety where it comes to allegory. They are not all that accustomed to the concept of the unreliable narrator.
 
They weren't that common on TOS, or the Federation and the Klingons wouldn't constantly be competing for them.

You're confusing power projection with necessity. Why did Europeans colonize remote areas of the world with a handful of colonist? To make them look good. That's why the plot of STWok doesn't make sense. Why would a well organized utopia need something as desperate as the Genesis Device unless it really was a weapon (Starfleet did fund it)
 
You're confusing power projection with necessity. Why did Europeans colonize remote areas of the world with a handful of colonist? To make them look good. That's why the plot of STWok doesn't make sense. Why would a well organized utopia need something as desperate as the Genesis Device unless it really was a weapon (Starfleet did fund it)

Because the UFP was not Utopia
 
"You look out the window of Starfleet Headquarters and you see paradise. It's easy to be a saint in paradise, but the Maquis do not live in paradise. ... "
Does Paradise = Perfect Utopia?
Me, I think paradise is a fairly subjective concept. Depends a lot on whose eyes you are looking through and what you are comparing it with. ;)
 
You're confusing power projection with necessity. Why did Europeans colonize remote areas of the world with a handful of colonist? To make them look good. That's why the plot of STWok doesn't make sense. Why would a well organized utopia need something as desperate as the Genesis Device unless it really was a weapon (Starfleet did fund it)
Huh? "Make them look good."????
Not sure what a "well organized utopia" has to do with make more planets we can live on.
 
"Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space." - Douglas Adams.

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You're confusing power projection with necessity. Why did Europeans colonize remote areas of the world with a handful of colonist? To make them look good. That's why the plot of STWok doesn't make sense. Why would a well organized utopia need something as desperate as the Genesis Device unless it really was a weapon (Starfleet did fund it)


Plus, as I keep harping, TOS never said the Federation was a utopia. That was more of a TNG thing. Heck, judging from all those squabbling diplomats in "Journey to Babel" the UFP wasn't even all that well organized. :)

If anything, TOS was profoundly skeptical of utopias, which usually turned out to have a fly in the ointment: alien spores, an insane computer, a delusional mad scientist, toxic fruit, etc.

As Kirk used to state, "Maybe we're not meant for Paradise."
 
I do not



I am still waiting for people to use the toilets in Star Trek or to have their existence acknowledged

Do you really want to see a scene with someone talking to Picard while he's sitting on the toilet taking a dump?
Or maybe Picard walks in on Riker doing the same.
 
You're confusing power projection with necessity. Why did Europeans colonize remote areas of the world with a handful of colonist? To make them look good. That's why the plot of STWok doesn't make sense. Why would a well organized utopia need something as desperate as the Genesis Device unless it really was a weapon (Starfleet did fund it)
Because They can?
 
As far as Raffi technically not starving (and therefore technically not being poor to preserve TNG's lines that poverty was eradicated), we do know that Dahj's replicator menu was described as "tragic". I can only wonder what Raffi's replicator menu was limited to.
 
As far as Raffi technically not starving (and therefore technically not being poor to preserve TNG's lines that poverty was eradicated), we do know that Dahj's replicator menu was described as "tragic". I can only wonder what Raffi's replicator menu was limited to.
I imagine it's not so much what the software can do, as to how much actual physical materials one has to make stuff.
Replicators don't make chit outta thin air, one has to have a supply of basic materials on hand for the machine to work with.

That is probably the limiting factor for most less fortunate folks.
 
Do you really want to see a scene with someone talking to Picard while he's sitting on the toilet taking a dump?
Or maybe Picard walks in on Riker doing the same.

Yeah and pass gas as well, cos if its not on screen it is not canon that humans need to take a leak and break wind.
 
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