Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x03 - "The End is the Beginning"

[BorgTheory]

I actually did a very early morning run with Mr. Takei back in the early 80's.
He came to a Star Trek Convention here in Albany, NY.
That was a lot of fun.

I bet it was!

 

[Mark 2000]

Sorry, but I'm gonna take the word over the writers who were actually there, dealing with Gene and his notes over some random blogger. A cursory look at that article reveals some seriously frivolous examples the author is blowing up to be far more significant than they were.

How about checking out these interview --

http://blog.trekcore.com/2013/05/exclusive-ron-moore-ira-steven-behr-interview-part-ii/

Where Ira Behr and Ronald Moore cite Gene's complains about "family" and "captain's holiday", specifically about how Gene hated "Family" in large part due to the fact that he thought "brothers wouldn't argue" in the future or how Ira Behr's original pitch for "Captain's Holiday" was Picard seeing a holodeck version of him in the future living a boring life, but Gene insisted "Picard would never, ever worry about growing old."

Yes, Gene's restrictions were very, very real and the actual writers were hamstrung many times -- or were able to just ignore Gene's wishes for various reasons.

Sorry, but your blogger's article is nonsense and he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Sorry, but I feel like you didn’t actually read the article because you’re just repeating the same old quotes while not paying attention to what was actually on screen while Gene was running things. We know Moore and Behr were particularly unhappy with the universe they were writing in. Moore started he want more blood and guts and militarism and never understood the concept of having families on a generation ship. Behr sincerely believed utopia couldn’t exist without a neo-conservative backend and had a near seizure at the idea that Gene wanted homosexual romance visible on Risa in “Chaos on the Bridge”. Maurice Hurley contradicts himself in the same documentary about what he and Gene wanted on the show. Yeah, I don’t trust their take on Gene. I trust what’s in Gene’s own writing and what he traditionally strove for in his character interactions.

 

[BorgTheory]

Sorry, but I feel like you didn’t actually read the article because you’re just repeating the same old quotes while not paying attention to what was actually on screen while Gene was running things. We know Moore and Behr were particularly unhappy with the universe they were writing in. Moore started he want more blood and guts and militarism and never understood the concept of having families on a generation ship. Behr sincerely believed utopia couldn’t exist without a new-conservative backend and had a near seizure at the idea that Gene wanted homosexual romance visible on Risa in “Chaos on the Bridge”. Maurice Hurley contradicts himself in the same documentary about what he and Gene wanted on the show. Yeah, I don’t trust their take on Gene. I trust what’s in Gene’s own writing and what he traditionally strove for in his character interactions.

Moore got his blood and guts but never got his 7 seasons :-)

 

[antinoos]

I voted the first time for Mr. Barack Hussien Obama, then J. McCain

That's impossible

 

[DaveyNY]

That's impossible

... and believe me, not with the effort discussing.

 

[oberth]

did anybody call trek a socialist paradise yet?

 

[DaveyNY]

did anybody call trek a socialist paradise yet?

Can't recall that, but I think somebody mentioned something about an Ice Cream Social though.

 

[oberth]

Can't recall that, but I think somebody mentioned something about an Ice Cream Social though.

• free replicator

do i need to get further?

 

[DaveyNY]

• free replicator

do i need to get further?

I got nothin' ...

Get thee to a nunnery?

 

[BorgTheory]

That's impossible

PM if you wanna talk about it.

 

[oberth]

PM if you wanna talk about it.

i would be interested in that pm, too. and i certainly didn't vote for any of them.

 

[antinoos]

PM if you wanna talk about it.

I mean, unless you committed voter fraud, you couldn't have voted for both of them, because they were running against each other in the same election.

 

[oberth]

I mean, unless you committed voter fraud, you couldn't have voted for both of them, because they were running against each other in the same election.

that's a technicallity i'll admit i didn't see that (but then i'm a european)

 

[Lord Garth]

that's a technicallity

It's really not.

 

[oberth]

It's really not.

sure it is - i'll bet you there are cohorts of americans who believe they've done that

 

[Lord Garth]

i'll bet you there are cohorts of americans who believe they've done that

The problem is, I don't know if I can disagree with that.

 

[oberth]

The problem is, I don't know if I can disagree with that.

 

[NCC-73515]

What was with Geordie laForge wearing that visor of his?

I assume you do know the difference between a device that lets a blind man see, and a device that only dims light when it's too bright

that's exactly where you lost me - i have but one question:

hä?
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i'd really like to size up that hä? (hä is a bavarian question word expressing utter disbelieve & shock about some statement)

Bavarian expressions are the best. Hoiddauf, greizdeifi, spinnst jetz ganz? XD

Someone here (maybe) said that Picard looked surprised to see the phaser there, but when I watched it again, that wasn't so. His look was more like, "There it is, right where I put it!"

He's been looking for it for years! XD
But I think there's no phaser there, they're all disruptor pistols.

 

[Alan Roi]

I assume you do know the difference between a device that lets a blind man see, and a device that only dims light when it's too bright

I know that not every member of a race of people is going to have ideal physical characteristics and that I shouldn't expect that of each and every one of them.

 

[oberth]

Bavarian expressions are the best. Hoiddauf, greizdeifi, spinnst jetz ganz? XD.

himmiherrgottsakrament - where do you know that stuff from?