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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"

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Oh And I absoloutely loath the begining. There is no money in the future, but there is the working class eating shitty lunch rations. This is the future, people should be able to replicate whatever they want. I understand on Voyager, resources were limited. This is Mars in the federation. Picard can replicate whatever he wants in his home so can Dahj, yet people on Mars working on a holiday are eating shitty lunches.
 
I think that--unlike the other officer ranks--admiral ranks are by direct appointment (either by the Federation Council or by the Starfleet admiralty itself) and one could go straight from captain to 4-pip admiral instantly to fill a particular billet.

Well since this series references JJ Trek stuff, and Kirk went from Cadet to Starship Captain over the course of a few weeks, I totally buy into Picard going from Captain to 4 star Admiral in seven years.
 
What was the point of putting the Synthetics to sleep, they can work 24/7, why not just use Holograms wouldn't that be way easier then an actual machine. In Voyager, old holograms are being used as cleaning crews.
 
Like why are there people doing jobs against their will. We grew beyond that. That was the whole point of star trek, that people did what they wanted to.They served in star fleet because they wanted to, otherwise Earth was a paradise where people didn't need for anything.
 
I am so sick and tired of the corrupt star fleet/secret organization plot. its been so overdone.

I would agree if this was another Section 31 story, but it isn't. I see nothing about a corrupt Starfleet here. The admiral is pissed off at Picard, for reasons we may disagree with but can probably understand. Her anger about the interview from the previous episode was believable. The fact that there are Romulan agents who have infiltrated Starfleet is interesting, and fits the political relationship between the two that we've seen in the past. In TNG, this dynamic was modeled on the Cold War, so spy games, lots of strategizing, etc., all made sense. The resurgence of that in STP is appropriate, given the resurgence of Russia as an evil mastermind in today's political climate.
 
Exactly. There are so many Trek canon errors and inconsistencies to pick apart, but throw-away dialogue should hardly be among them. People are inconsistent in the real world all the time, they exaggerate, they generalize, they are ignorant. This is the absolute easiest to explain away.
I'm amused how people expect characters in TV shows and movies to be hyper-literal and precise, especially when throwing numbers around.

Ask me about the same event that happened 7.5 years ago and I might say it happened 5, 7, 8, or 10 years ago depending on how deeply I'm thinking about, what point of reference I'm using, and which way I'm rounding. And I won't rule out that I might give a number that's *completely* inaccurate if I'm not thinking about it much, especially if the exact time period isn't that important to what I'm saying.

EDIT: Note that, while I'm using numbers in the examples, the same principle applies to all sorts of facts.
 
Oh And I absoloutely loath the begining. There is no money in the future, but there is the working class eating shitty lunch rations. This is the future, people should be able to replicate whatever they want. I understand on Voyager, resources were limited. This is Mars in the federation. Picard can replicate whatever he wants in his home so can Dahj, yet people on Mars working on a holiday are eating shitty lunches.

Its pretty much constant that replicated food isn't all that great.
 
I think they want to do these jobs. A lot of people want the jobs they have and still complain about the food at lunch or their coworkers.

Paradise and utopia don't exist in real life. The best we can hope for is to have all our basic needs met and be free to whine about the rest that's optional.
 
Like why are there people doing jobs against their will. We grew beyond that. That was the whole point of star trek, that people did what they wanted to.They served in star fleet because they wanted to, otherwise Earth was a paradise where people didn't need for anything.
Who is being made to work against their will? The synthetics are presumably not sentient, or at least not believed to be sentient. Just because you build something that looks like a person doesn't mean it is a person. We have no idea how the synths/androids on Mars were built.
 
Janeway did the same ;)

Also, Kirk was a lieutenant who went to captain ;)

Picard was also one of the most decorated captains in Starfleet history, who had passed up promotions to admiral on multiple occasions. Once he finally agreed to a promotion, I don't see why he couldn't have been promoted even to C-in-C within a few years.
 
Just watched Ep 2, and I give it a 9. Really just an establishing episode, even more than Ep 1.

So the Vulcan (?) is a Commodore. Commodore of what,
Section 31
??

Picard was also one of the most decorated captains in Starfleet history, who had passed up promotions to admiral on multiple occasions. Once he finally agreed to a promotion, I don't see why he couldn't have been promoted even to C-in-C within a few years.

Too many "career" Admirals, like the one Picard visited, with their own plans.
 
It didn't make sense that Maddox would model her/them on the painting Data did, and it got a little speachy in places but at least they weren't all delivered by Picard. :lol:
 
I was very disappointed int he length of the episode. Cant believe on a streaming sight we are going to get 43 minutes. My thoughts were that I now hate the plot. I am so sick and tired of the corrupt star fleet/secret organization plot. its been so overdone.
Kurtzman seems to have forgotten that the Tal Shiar is the Romulan secret organization so they invented and even more secret one.
 
Kurtzman seems to have forgotten that the Tal Shiar is the Romulan secret organization so they invented and even more secret one.

Wait till you hear about the Naht Mutch, a secret organization inside the Zhat Vash, which is a classified part of the secretive Tal Shiar, which is inside the mysterious Romulan Star Empire, which is inside a clandestine commemorative tote bag filled with spicy vegetarian chili.
 
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