I missed the Kasidy Yates reference! I'll need to go back and rewatch that part of the episode!
Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"
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Maybe it was blernsball. The last baseball World Series was in 2042. unless baseball suddenly became more popular after a certain match between the Niners and the Logicians reignited interest. They were still teams on Cestus III, though.
Just as long as Bood S'Leeg isn't still commissioner.
Not sure your logic tracks, but I'm not sure what you're getting at. That the Borg is behind the synth attacks? Okay, I mean, maybe. But why, what's your theory?
Not a bad review, but he definitely harps on DSC, or any perceived connection to it. I may not like DSC, but I don't have to treat it like it exists just to offend me. I just leave it alone.
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I just finished watching "Remembrance", and I have to say I enjoyed it. I'm curious as to how Picard knows the two Romulans who live with him, though it could be inferred that they were part of the rescue attempt. I like that we're seeing some intraspecies diversity among the Romulans, where not everyone has the same haircut and uniform.
I think the story has promise, although I sort of feel like I know where the story is going to some extent. I hope I'm wrong, because I legitimately want to be surprised by the story (in a good way). Admittedly, we don't really have any answers to our questions yet, and not all of our characters have been introduced, so we don't yet know how it all fits together.
Does anyone else get the sense that the producers took a hard look at what did and didn't work with DSC, and tried to apply those lesson to PIC? I feel like the writers are making a greater effort at giving us reasons to invest in the characters in PIC, whereas in DSC, such investment felt insistent rather than organic. I'm more invested in Zhaban and Laris after one episode than the entire crew of DSC after two seasons (although admittedly, I bailed on DSC six episodes into season one). Also, tying in the story to modern events gives the story they're telling a sense of relevance.
Looking forward to next Thursday.
It occurred to me that, with this episode, TNG stomped on Kirk and Spock's legacy in ways that would have had Trek fans horrified in 1987 with their fears of the new TNG show. Kirk was stranded and ultimately died due to a Federation that let its newest flagship out of spacedock without being fully equipped (and Picard chose the absolute worst time to bring Kirk in to stop Soran, leading to Kirk's death).
Now, Spock was stranded and ultimately died in a foreign universe due to the Federation abandoning Romulan efforts to help.
Now, Spock was stranded and ultimately died in a foreign universe due to the Federation abandoning Romulan efforts to help.
Maybe Picard and Data are both Dahj's and Soji Asha's fathers.
Well, this was pretty damn solid beginning. It feels right, it looks right, I love how it actually takes time to tell the story. People have already gushed about the episode for ninety pages, so I'm not gonna repeat all the praise yet again. Now this first episode is highly promising, but of course it will be far too early to tell how good the show will be. There has been many (far too many) TV shows and movie trilogies recently where things start promising but the story goes off the rails at some point and the conclusion is dissatisfying. I hope this doesn't happen here.
The bit I'm bit sceptical about is the details of the android plot. First, what is a 'flesh and blood' android? How it is not just an unnecessarily complicated way of making a normal human? Or are we talking about some sort of Terminator style arrangement here, where there is just a biological outer layer? But certainly that wouldn't be nearly as challenging is Dr. Jurati implies... Also the neural cloning and magically paired androids sound a bit kooky. We'll see how this turns out.
Dahj certainly seemed like an interesting character... except she died! That was certainly not something I was expecting. Otherwise the story was pretty much I was expecting based on the trailers. Anyway, I can't wait to see more, I would have really preferred a two hour opening episode.
BTW, did anyone else notice that it kinda seemed that one of the people who attacked Dahj in the beginning tried to Vulcan nerve pinch her? Now I'm sure technically there's nothing stopping a Romulan learning it, but it is a move pretty damn strongly associated with Vulcans...
The bit I'm bit sceptical about is the details of the android plot. First, what is a 'flesh and blood' android? How it is not just an unnecessarily complicated way of making a normal human? Or are we talking about some sort of Terminator style arrangement here, where there is just a biological outer layer? But certainly that wouldn't be nearly as challenging is Dr. Jurati implies... Also the neural cloning and magically paired androids sound a bit kooky. We'll see how this turns out.
Dahj certainly seemed like an interesting character... except she died! That was certainly not something I was expecting. Otherwise the story was pretty much I was expecting based on the trailers. Anyway, I can't wait to see more, I would have really preferred a two hour opening episode.
BTW, did anyone else notice that it kinda seemed that one of the people who attacked Dahj in the beginning tried to Vulcan nerve pinch her? Now I'm sure technically there's nothing stopping a Romulan learning it, but it is a move pretty damn strongly associated with Vulcans...
Not canon obviously, but the info comes from the show's backstory (so I consider it canon until it's contridicted on screen)
In Prequel comic they're Ex-Tal-Shiar agents living on a Romulan Colony world that Picard is sent to help evacuate. They fell in love, which is a no-no in the organization, and are indirectly helping the native species rebel, by not telling the colonial authorities about it.
didn't notice, but now i have to rewatch.
None of this surprises me.
Those silly cartoons aren’t canon. They think the original and A are the same ships.And its got tardigrade eggs in the warp core. Deal with it, folks
Anyone else notice there is a lot of co executive producer's and executive producer on this show.
What's funny about that?
It occurred to me that, with this episode, TNG stomped on Kirk and Spock's legacy in ways that would have had Trek fans horrified in 1987 with their fears of the new TNG show. Kirk was stranded and ultimately died due to a Federation that let its newest flagship out of spacedock without being fully equipped (and Picard chose the absolute worst time to bring Kirk in to stop Soran, leading to Kirk's death).
Now, Spock was stranded and ultimately died in a foreign universe due to the Federation abandoning Romulan efforts to help.
TNG was all about stomping on Kirk and Spock's legacies. I could see that pretty early on back in 87. And they also felt the need to stomp on Scotty's for free.
That was just a mistake by the art team.
I did as well. Though I did spot a building lit up with the Ferengi logo.
Yep. I saw that on Twitter. A faithful replication of the Ferengi logo, too.
Grand Nagus Rom has been hard at work establishing business ties with the Federation.
Grand Nagus Rom has been hard at work establishing business ties with the Federation.
There's something about it that feels a little Blade Runner-esque.
Having watched the original version twice I just gave the German dubbing a try. In this version the Romulan agent tells the other to speak ".Föderations-Standard/Federation Standard", which I consider a quite smart translation.