Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

[Alan Roi]

It already feels more Star Trek than Discovery ever did and getting a better balance between paying homage to the old while introducing the new. Clearly they learned their lessons in that regard.

It actually feels less like a Star Trek show than Discovery has ever felt. It feels even more like a Star Trek movie as there are some parallels with Wrath of Khan, IE, and old embittered Picard finds his past coming back to haunt him, but also motivate him to get off his ass.

I don't mistake wallowing in sentimentality, though, for a better balance of paying homage, which is what this show starts off doing. That's why it only gets an 8/10 from me.

i'm otherewise pleased at how much it didn't feel like an episode of TNG.

 

[Captain Shaw]

Oh please, Garth. With turning 60 a few years ago, I slid into the "old" category. The mirror and the body say "no shit," but the brain still isn't quite accepting of that.

Stewart is def older this time. He's finally seeming to age IRL too. I was reading somewhere the Jean-Luc character is supposed to be 92 in this show. I wonder if that's accurate.

if Memory Alpha is correct he is 94.

 

[Yistaan]

The rescue fleet was specifically targeted in the attack. The reasons are unknown, but that was the goal of the attack, it wasn't just "let's randomly blast Mars all over."

Which means the synths shouldn't be blamed, as there are tons of enemies the Romulans have who would want to prevent their evacuation and would sabotage the synths.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Nitpick: I don't believe the "youngest captain in Starfleet" thing was ever established onscreen. I think that's mostly fanon.

The claim is actually somewhat contradicted in TNG (S1). Tryla Scott is noted as having risen the fastest to the rank of Captain. While that doesn't mean she was the youngest (i.e. she could have started at the academy when she was older), it strongly implies it.

 

[Yistaan]

if Memory Alpha is correct he is 94.

Yeah, I don't know where the producers are getting the 92 age unless the show takes place in 2397?

 

[JoeZhang]

They overdid Picard looking out of place in the fight scene though. At the least he should have pulled out a handheld phaser and made a few missed shots, or immediately started calling Federation police on his communicator.

Someone with as many enemies as he had should definitely have prepared for the possibility of a sudden attack, even during retirement.

It is funny how people accuse modern trek of being dark when this is more dark than anything we have seen on screen.

An elderly retired Picard who packs a phaser even on earth because he is worried about assassination.

 

[Captain Shaw]

Anyone else notice there is a lot of co executive producer's and executive producer on this show.

 

[Noname Given]

if Memory Alpha is correct he is 94.

The info holo Dahj pulled up on Picard had his Birth year as 2305 and his current age listed as 92 (it was seen from the back - IE reversed as the audience/camera saw it, but that was the info shown). So, either the current year is 2297, or someone in the VFX dept. goofed - got the wrong info; OR the script was changed.

 

[thribs]

Yeah, I don't know where the producers are getting the 92 age unless the show takes place in 2397?

That should be the year if this is 10 years after the nova

 

[cooleddie74]

I'm pretty sure I showed up in the list of executive producers. If you even like Trek you're an executive producer on one of the new series.

 

[Yistaan]

It is funny how people accuse modern trek of being dark when this is more dark than anything we have seen on screen.

An elderly retired Picard who packs a phaser even on earth because he is worried about assassination.

Except it isn't more dark for the overall future Trek represents. The average Federation citizen doesn't need to worry about assassination because no one's going to bother overriding the massive futuristic Federation security to kill them.

Picard specifically does have to worry about it because he has enemies like Daimon Bok, the House of Duras, the Borg Queen, etc. who have a motive to go through the sheer amount of effort needed to override security and harm him. It's not a dystopian future indication at all, but rather a natural consequence of the many enemies Picard made in his career. And Picard would be aware of that and carry a self-defense phaser (even if only set to stun).

 

[BillJ]

Anyone else notice there is a lot of co executive producer's and executive producer on this show.

Welcome to modern TV.

 

[Captain Shaw]

I'm pretty sure I showed up in the list of executive producers. If you even like Trek you're an executive producer on one of the new series.

Can't wait for my check to come.

 

[NX_01]

^^^
I guess my question would be: IF the Supernova that Spock was attempting to stop WAS the Star of the Romulan Home system - how in the hell would creating a massive Black hole in the vicinity of said star save Romulus. Not only would there be no star inn the system to continue to provide what the planet would need to remain habitable; there would be a massive black hole in it's place that I assume would eventually consume the planet regardless.

So yeah, the whole setup/explanation doesn't make sense unless the Super Nova was a different star; and SOMEHOW that Super Nova created some type of FTL/Subspace effect that Romulan/Federation scientists found would trigger other Stars (including the Romulan Home System star) in a few months/years/whatever; and that somehow, using Red Matter to create a Black Hole somewhere near (but still a 'safe' distance from the Romulan system) would stop that effect from occurring.

It was indeed not the sun of the Romulus system: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Supernova (see countdown comic).
And a black hole does not act like a vacuum cleaner, replace the sun with a black hole of the same mass and the basic gravitational forces are nearly identically at least for the distances we are discussing here.

 

[Alan Roi]

Which is a woefully inefficient way to tell a story.

few novels, which is what this TV style apes, or indeed TV serials, outside of the pulp genre style works, hit the ground running.

 

[JD]

I didn't get to watch the episode until this morning and I loved it.
It was great seeing Patrick Stewart as Picard again, he really gave a great performance. Obviously he was in a very different place from where we saw him last, but it was still very clearly Jean-Luc Picard.
I thought the mixing up of time periods in the dream at the beginning was interesting. They were on the Enterprise-D, Data was wearing the uniform from after it was destoryed, and we saw the attack on Mars which happened after Data died.
The introduction of Dahj was pretty interesting, and her connection to Data was unexpected. I already suspected she was an android, but I did not expect her to be so directly connected to death. Her death and the introduction of her sister were the biggest surprises of the episode.
I loved getting to finally see more of 24th Earth.
It gets an excellent vote from me.

 

[Alan Roi]

Which means the synths shouldn't be blamed, as there are tons of enemies the Romulans have who would want to prevent their evacuation and would sabotage the synths.

But it was the synths who did it, so are deemed responsible, because, you know, a certain court case decided that they should be treated as people and not toasters.

 

[Yistaan]

But it was the synths who did it, so are deemed responsible, because, you know, a certain court case decided that they should be treated as people and not toasters.

Fair enough, although if they can prove they were tampered with there's still the "Not guilty by reason of insanity" legal approach.

 

[kirk55555]

This was an excellent episode. I loved pretty much all of it, I have no real complaints, just little nitpicks that don't really matter. Patrick Stewart was amazing, which was to be expected. Spiner did a great job as dream sequence Data. Even being noticeably older/more "chunky", his acting was still right on, and anything "off" can be explained as being distorted because its a dream. The main story has a good hook, and learning the full fallout of the synth attack from the short treks was interesting (although I kind of doubt that Starfleet couldn't have fixed Mars' problems at this point). Also, like others have said, I liked seeing a bit more of 24th century earth.

The few nitpicks i have are mostly just aesthetic based. I don't like the removal of the Romulan forehead bumps from all of the romulans. If DSC klingons have to look like shitty HR Giger abominations, they can afford to put bumpy foreheads on at least some of the romulans (we know they don't all have them, but come on, even ST09 showed some "regular" TNG-VOY era Romulans during Spock's flashback). That said, I'm glad they established that the real klingons are canon to this show with the Picard/Worf picture, so hopefully that's what we'll see if any klingons appear.

Also, the DSC ships (shuttles, the ship in the short trek, etc) had better just be the show being cheap, and not them overwriting actual 24th Century ships with the DSC designs. To be clear, I actually like the DSC Starfleet ships, and they would have made much more sense in the 24th Century, but they can't just reuse them now. also, the DSC Enterprise is not the Enterprise that Kirk commanded, so it shouldn't show up in that hologram in the preview/trailer for later in the season.

But, like I said, those are nitpicks. Overall I really enjoyed the episode and I'm completely hooked on the show right from the beginning, which is a nice change of pace after DSC took a whole season to get a grip on what it should be doing.

 

[Yistaan]

But it was the synths who did it, so are deemed responsible, because, you know, a certain court case decided that they should be treated as people and not toasters.

Also, if the synths were sabotaged, holding them responsible would be like imprisoning Picard for the Battle of Wolf 359, when he wasn't in control of his actions.