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Patrick Stewart has seen first 5 episodes, hopes fans won't be disappointed

I'm very confused. Just watch the show if you want, give it a try. It's a new Star Trek show. At least sample it. You might like it.

And don't pay any attention to what other people like! You do you, man. I love that you fight the good fight in the SW forums and are true to your self and your opinions regardless of what anyone else says.

What other people think doesn't matter!
I appreciate the encouragement but at this point I'm too worn out. Just been a long week emotionally.
 
I'm very confused. Just watch the show if you want, give it a try. It's a new Star Trek show. At least sample it. You might like it.

And don't pay any attention to what other people like! You do you, man. I love that you fight the good fight in the SW forums and are true to your self and your opinions regardless of what anyone else says.

What other people think doesn't matter!

I agree.

I've given every Star Trek series the audition it deserves and will continue to do so regardless of what any "true fan" thinks. More than one series has rewarded my attention more often than not, more than one series has disappointed me more often than not. Picard gets the same opportunity as any other.
 
With due respect, I have spent the last ten years defending the Trek that I enjoy and love on some level, warts and all. This is one of the first times that I have had this attitude towards Trek and I am done. I'm done liking stuff and being told it sucks because I'm apparently blind to the flaws. I'm just over it all.

Nope, not this time.

Honestly, I can't imagine this show being as much as slog as the Berman era shows were from some to most of their runs. Surprise me, Picard.
 
There's only ten episodes per season.

It's much more condensed. There isn't the sense of "How are we going to fill our 22?" that you get with Berman Trek.

I've seen several scifi shows over the past couple years who, despite only having only 8-13 eps still managed to suffer from that Berman era problem.
 
Picard already surprised me with somebody who smokes :eek:

Clearly Tom Paris was dead wrong in "Ex Post Facto(VOY)" when he said humanity had abandoned smoking. ;) He generalized, which is what many characters throughout the franchise have done when expounding on how "perfect" and "utopian" mankind had become since the 20th century.
 
Clearly Tom Paris was dead wrong in "Ex Post Facto(VOY)" when he said humanity had abandoned smoking. ;) He generalized, which is what many characters throughout the franchise have done when expounding on how "perfect" and "utopian" mankind had become since the 20th century.

In TWOK-TSFS, there was a "No Smoking" sign in the Transporter Room. They wouldn't need it if no one smoked. Then St. Talbot smoked in TFF. It was a more recent phenomenon than VOY would lead someone to believe and I lean heavily toward he was generalizing. I think Humans out on the frontier and living on colonies have more vices than those on Earth itself. Paris wanted to paint himself as more of a bad-ass than he really was.
 
Yep. Humanity still has many of its current-day vices in the distant future but we just don't allow them to define our entire culture or poison the environment.
 
When was the last time the Shat appeared in a Trek sequel ?
"Generations"?
When was that?
1994 - Shatner was 63 when he did it, and that was the last time he appeared in a feature film as James T. Kirk. (He did a Star Trek skit in full costume playing Kirk for the Oscars back in 2013 at age 82 - but that was about two minutes tops.) ;)

Picard already surprised me with somebody who smokes :eek:
It's synthi-smoke...promotes lung regeneration, and is great for Kids and plants. :wtf::shrug:;)
 
Clearly Tom Paris was dead wrong in "Ex Post Facto(VOY)" when he said humanity had abandoned smoking. ;) He generalized, which is what many characters throughout the franchise have done when expounding on how "perfect" and "utopian" mankind had become since the 20th century.

You're always going to get people like Rios -- people who raise the proverbial middle finger at humanity.
 
Yep. Humanity still has many of its current-day vices in the distant future but we just don't allow them to define our entire culture or poison the environment.
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With due respect, I have spent the last ten years defending the Trek that I enjoy and love on some level, warts and all. This is one of the first times that I have had this attitude towards Trek and I am done. I'm done liking stuff and being told it sucks because I'm apparently blind to the flaws. I'm just over it all.

I've got to say, that this is the first time you feel you've got this attitude towards Trek, but have then suddenly decided that you are "done" as a result, is somewhat baffling. Probably exactly the kind of attitude you say you've been speaking out against the past ten years, too?

Never stop liking things just because someone says it sucks. You like what you like, don't engage with people who make you feel like shite for liking it.

I've got to say...

We all have that one Star Trek series we don't like (and even if you don't, it'll happen one day). Mine just happened to be ENT, not PIC. So I see exactly what fireproof78 is saying. No need to press the issue. He's been on the other side of the argument plenty of times.

My post was a general statement about the choice of words and attitude in the post I was quoting. They presented as the typical "fan" response to any new content put out these days, whatever the franchise/fandom.

Being on the side of good the majority of the time doesn't give one a free pass when they decide to become exactly what they've been fighting against :D

Because I'm done trying. I'm done liking stuff others don't. It was fun as a teenager, but it's just tiresome now. I'm over it.

I'll just go watch my TOS VHS and just be done.

Honestly, you do you, but I can't wrap my head around this way of thinking, and it seems like you're cutting your nose off to spite your face, so to speak? Why are you "done liking stuff others don't?" Are you only allowed to like things that everyone else likes? You can't just enjoy what you want to enjoy?

Let it fly over your head, friend. Half the people spouting hate at things don't even feel the way they claim they do, and half the time haven't even seen what they're bitching about. The other half are still watching, despite supposedly hating it ;)
 
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"... think of all the joy you'll find, when you leave the world behind..."
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Being on the side of good the majority of the time doesn't give one a free pass when they decide to become exactly what they've been fighting against :D

Oh, I happen to have had some experience in that area, dealing with others who act the way you describe and then some. Let's just say I'm confident fireproof78 won't take it that far. ;)

I don't stick up for people lightly.
 
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