I’m fairly sure that in TLJ, there’s a chunk of the wing missing. I’ll have to watch it again to be sure.
Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion
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I’m fairly sure that in TLJ, there’s a chunk of the wing missing. I’ll have to watch it again to be sure.
^ I've gone back and looked at the image of Luke's X-Wing submerged beneath the Ach-To ocean from TLJ, and the only portion of the ship that isn't visible in said image s the right wing-mounted gunnery protrusion.
However, that part of the ship isn't thick enough to have been used as the door to Luke's hut.
However, that part of the ship isn't thick enough to have been used as the door to Luke's hut.
I am more curious about how it ended in the war. It looked intact in both films, so it was not a hard landing. And, with the landing gear extended down, would Luke have landed into the water in that condition? Or did he land it on one of the islands, then move into the water?
Is there any information on how major portions of the Death Star II survived such a large and powerful explosion? And, according to production sources, the remains crashed on another moon of Endor, not the Forest Moon of Endor. So, the Death Star II survived a major explosion, somehow, then moved in position to another moon, where it either entered the atmosphere and crashed on the moon, or reappeared on the moon.
Is there any information on how major portions of the Death Star II survived such a large and powerful explosion? And, according to production sources, the remains crashed on another moon of Endor, not the Forest Moon of Endor. So, the Death Star II survived a major explosion, somehow, then moved in position to another moon, where it either entered the atmosphere and crashed on the moon, or reappeared on the moon.
Saw it earlier today at the TCL Chinese Theatre in Hollywood. A fun ride and certainly not the end of this series (we'll see more Rey). My impressions:
1. The first half is very rushed -- have to run to THIS planet, then THAT planet, then THE OTHER planet to get stuff.
2. Kylo and the First Order are always 30 seconds behind them no matter where they go. A bit odd, considering the galaxy is so big.
3. Rey being a Palpatine isn't a huge surprise -- I mean, for the last four years, we've debated that she's either a Skywalker, a Kenobi, or a Palpatine. 33% chance of success!
4. Best part of the movie: love the ROTJ Han Solo shrug from Kylo when he reveals the light sabre to the Knights of Ren.
5. PS: WTF is up with the Knights of Ren? They don't do anything. They're a bad imitation of bounty hunters, just creepily following people around in their cos-play.
6. The end battle was ROTJ on steroids.
7. How did all the Star Destroyers start crashing around the galaxy? Wasn't clearly articulated, and had an Independence Day vibe to it.
8. Why was Ben's force ghost missing from the finale on Tatooine? Also, I would have paid extra money to see Hayden Christensen appear as Anakin force ghost. I mean, they went out of their way to include Wedge and Wicket for 3 seconds.
9. Rey is a Skywalker (albeit by adoption)! Suck it to those who said that would never happen! We all knew... "It is inevitable!"
1. The first half is very rushed -- have to run to THIS planet, then THAT planet, then THE OTHER planet to get stuff.
2. Kylo and the First Order are always 30 seconds behind them no matter where they go. A bit odd, considering the galaxy is so big.
3. Rey being a Palpatine isn't a huge surprise -- I mean, for the last four years, we've debated that she's either a Skywalker, a Kenobi, or a Palpatine. 33% chance of success!
4. Best part of the movie: love the ROTJ Han Solo shrug from Kylo when he reveals the light sabre to the Knights of Ren.
5. PS: WTF is up with the Knights of Ren? They don't do anything. They're a bad imitation of bounty hunters, just creepily following people around in their cos-play.
6. The end battle was ROTJ on steroids.
7. How did all the Star Destroyers start crashing around the galaxy? Wasn't clearly articulated, and had an Independence Day vibe to it.
8. Why was Ben's force ghost missing from the finale on Tatooine? Also, I would have paid extra money to see Hayden Christensen appear as Anakin force ghost. I mean, they went out of their way to include Wedge and Wicket for 3 seconds.
9. Rey is a Skywalker (albeit by adoption)! Suck it to those who said that would never happen! We all knew... "It is inevitable!"
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I got the impression he just crash-landed the thing and being able to take off again was a distant secondary concern.
I assume that he landed properly and used the Force to lower the X-Wing into the water.
i was watching a review saying that all the events in the film took place in 16 hours. When did they indicate that?
This is especially apparent in The Last Jedi. We are supposed to believe that Finn and Rose's excursion to Canto bight and back took place in the span of 18 hours. This would also mean the Rey's time with Luke took place in a similar span of time, despite the fact that we saw her spend several days there.
As much as I hated the Last Jedi, the ONE aspect from it I wish they would bring (and I thought they would bring) was that their phone call at the end would ONLY SEEM to have been unanswered.. but after some time the outer rim worlds would hear it and answer. But in the new film, the call was totally unanswered.. and now we are to believe that Lando went to the outer rim, recruited thousands of ships and made it back to the core, within fifteen minutes with an arsenal of ships ready to fight.
In ESB too, if we're being honest.
I really thought all those good guy ships showing up at the end were answering the phone call; it had just taken them a little longer than expected to arrive. And Lando happened to be one of the many that decided to answer. Now I need to watch the movie again.
Is there a source on this? All the online articles I've found keep repeating that Abrams said that Lucas told him that Palpatine was "absolutely dead," and that Lucas therefore didn't intend for Palpatine to come back but Abrams decided to go ahead and do it anyway.
Not that it matters what Lucas thinks, since SW was now Abrams' sandbox to do as he pleased with. Sure, GL may have had a few decent ideas once upon a time, but that doesn't make him some kind of venerable 'elder statesman' who has to have a say in a franchise that he willingly gave up creative interest in.
Kor
Is there a source on this? All the online articles I've found keep repeating that Abrams said that Lucas told him that Palpatine was "absolutely dead," and that Lucas therefore didn't intend for Palpatine to come back but Abrams decided to go ahead and do it anyway.
Not that it matters what Lucas thinks, since SW was now Abrams' sandbox to do as he pleased with. Sure, GL may have had a few decent ideas once upon a time, but that doesn't make him some kind of venerable 'elder statesman' who has to have a say in a franchise that he willingly gave up creative interest in.
Kor
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Yes, and Lucas went back and forth on the possibility of Palpatine coming back. When ROTJ wrapped up, he told McDiarmid that Palpatine was permanently dead. Later, Lucas told the writers of "Dark Empire" that it was okay to resurrect Palpatine. And most recently, he went back on that concept and told Abrams that Palpatine is "absolutely dead." But that's just, like, his opinion, man.
Kor
Hey all,
Well, its gone from bad to worse concerning the novelization of The Rise of Skywalker. So much for expanded scenes and finding out new information on the movie. The novelization as been cut by at least 40 pages for starters.
Check out ereader's original page for the novelization it was 288 pages originally in October:
https://www.ereaderiq.com/dp/B07YJZRNDG/the-rise-of-skywalker-expanded-edition-star-wars/
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Skywalk...B20D6P6W8CC&psc=1&refRID=0KN11NZ3CB20D6P6W8CC
By contrast The Last Jedi novelization clocked in at 411 pages.
I'm severely bummed. So much for answers I think.
What a stupid blunder to wait 3 months for a truncated novel.
Wow. It should have been left alone, and released now,
-Koric
Well, its gone from bad to worse concerning the novelization of The Rise of Skywalker. So much for expanded scenes and finding out new information on the movie. The novelization as been cut by at least 40 pages for starters.
Check out ereader's original page for the novelization it was 288 pages originally in October:
https://www.ereaderiq.com/dp/B07YJZRNDG/the-rise-of-skywalker-expanded-edition-star-wars/
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Skywalk...B20D6P6W8CC&psc=1&refRID=0KN11NZ3CB20D6P6W8CC
By contrast The Last Jedi novelization clocked in at 411 pages.
I'm severely bummed. So much for answers I think.
What a stupid blunder to wait 3 months for a truncated novel.
Wow. It should have been left alone, and released now,
-Koric
I gave it a D.
I had low expectations walking into this film. I knew from even the trailers that it would go out of its way to retcon the last jedi. I think my greatest disappointment is seeing that low expectation not just validated, but exceeded.
Setting aside my disappointment from those unfulfilled questions out of TLJ, I thought the movie lacks depth and consequence. Chewie and 3PO "die", but these deaths turn out to be fake-outs, robbing the story of any meaningful for us to process. Hux is expended as a cheap speed bump of a character, instead of doing something interesting like launching a coup of his own to take control of the First Order. Ray is reduced to a one-dimensional character with little nuance or introspection she showed in the other installments. The plot feels cheap, useful only in shoving the plot to the next firefight or exposition scene. That's fine when we just got started with A New Hope, but we're over forty years of Star Wars and this movie was supposed to be the capstone to all of that with something that should have meant more than that.
In the end the film feels like nothing more than a parade of wish fulfillment fan-fiction with useless exposition sprinkled in for the purpose of generating Wookiepedia articles. The only big secret this film had- Rey Palpatine- was so melodramatic I'd think it was written in high school.
Even my bottom baseline- First Order starship pron- was unfulfilled. Indeed, for being the primary villain of the sequel trilogy, the First Order is disappointingly absent apart from the Finalizer, a squad of TIEs to chase the falcon around, and some dying Resurgents in the end montage. For being an organization that threatens the galaxy and forces our heroes into an underground resistance, they're hardly in the picture.
I can only imagine that this movie came about as the result of the backlash against TLJ. It's reminding me of how Discovery's Season 2 went down- with shoving the new take of the Klingons into behaving like their embarrassing TNG counterparts because of fan whining and complaining. Same with shoving Discovery into the distant future... because fans refuse to abide any breach of the sacred canon close to the TOS era.
Both of the major science fiction franchises have disappointed me as a result of fan backlash changing things that started out really interesting and innovative. If "fans" demand the resulting changes and I didn't want what resulted... am I still a fan?
I'm left with that wonder in the afterglow of The Rise of Skywalker and Discovery Season 2. I don't know if I want to go back to these places, if they are defining the future of the franchises.
I had low expectations walking into this film. I knew from even the trailers that it would go out of its way to retcon the last jedi. I think my greatest disappointment is seeing that low expectation not just validated, but exceeded.
Setting aside my disappointment from those unfulfilled questions out of TLJ, I thought the movie lacks depth and consequence. Chewie and 3PO "die", but these deaths turn out to be fake-outs, robbing the story of any meaningful for us to process. Hux is expended as a cheap speed bump of a character, instead of doing something interesting like launching a coup of his own to take control of the First Order. Ray is reduced to a one-dimensional character with little nuance or introspection she showed in the other installments. The plot feels cheap, useful only in shoving the plot to the next firefight or exposition scene. That's fine when we just got started with A New Hope, but we're over forty years of Star Wars and this movie was supposed to be the capstone to all of that with something that should have meant more than that.
In the end the film feels like nothing more than a parade of wish fulfillment fan-fiction with useless exposition sprinkled in for the purpose of generating Wookiepedia articles. The only big secret this film had- Rey Palpatine- was so melodramatic I'd think it was written in high school.
Even my bottom baseline- First Order starship pron- was unfulfilled. Indeed, for being the primary villain of the sequel trilogy, the First Order is disappointingly absent apart from the Finalizer, a squad of TIEs to chase the falcon around, and some dying Resurgents in the end montage. For being an organization that threatens the galaxy and forces our heroes into an underground resistance, they're hardly in the picture.
I can only imagine that this movie came about as the result of the backlash against TLJ. It's reminding me of how Discovery's Season 2 went down- with shoving the new take of the Klingons into behaving like their embarrassing TNG counterparts because of fan whining and complaining. Same with shoving Discovery into the distant future... because fans refuse to abide any breach of the sacred canon close to the TOS era.
Both of the major science fiction franchises have disappointed me as a result of fan backlash changing things that started out really interesting and innovative. If "fans" demand the resulting changes and I didn't want what resulted... am I still a fan?
I'm left with that wonder in the afterglow of The Rise of Skywalker and Discovery Season 2. I don't know if I want to go back to these places, if they are defining the future of the franchises.
I expect shakeups in Lucasfilm and I believe course correction is already being made. The success of The Mandalorian sends a message about what kind of Star Wars the consumer wants, and I trust they've taken notice. After all, they're doing the Kenobi series in a direct response to public demand.
As for CBS, the fact that they're going forward with the Section 31 show (all the while the fandom is screaming for a Pike series) leads me to believe they aren't paying much attention.
I am optimistic about Picard, though.
They said that right at the beginning - 16 hours until the first attacks on free worlds from the Final Order ships.
thanks.. I've only seen it once
