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What Specifically Do You Hope to See in Picard Continuity-Wise?
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It really doesn't.
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It really doesn't. All the designs are TMP style.
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Federation design will have the sleek organic smooth sea life look of the Wells class and the J later, so it makes sense to start that trend at some point.
Sela was one of the best TNG concepts, and I'd be thrilled to see her return!
Indeed. If the Verity is anything to go by, those ships look along the lines of what I'd expect. But my main point was I think Discovery looks like a 23rd Century ship because I know what I'm looking out for. It could work for the Early-24th Century too (early not late). Overall though, it looks more like it would fit in with the TOS Movie Era than the TOS Era (and the original design for this ship was from the '70s for Planet of the Titans), but since the Discovery is a top-of-the-line experimental ship and newer than the Enterprise, it works for me. I also once watched the original movies back-to-back with DSC to confirm what I thought and, visually, one rolls right off the other better than most people would think.
In fact, in "Brother", they even have Pike, Nhan, and Burnham comparing notes about how the Discovery looks like a newer design but the Enterprise has the newer uniform. It makes it feel more "real" that one ship would have one thing the other doesn't and vice versa. It provides more layers.
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Based on the original post I find it interesting Picard is at least assumed to be more consistent with continuity than say Discovery. Picard takes place we are told 20 years after Nemesis, so in a way Picard should have more freedom to do what it wants since there are no existing shows in that time frame or after it (other than isolated scenes from various episodes from the future).
I hope Picard is more forward looking and doesn't dwell on the past. Partly I freely admit is because I'm a loyal novel reader and have loved the relaunches of the various TV series. The less on the past Picard looks, the less it will contradict what happened in the novels. Partly it's because I prefer a show that moves forward and doesn't reflect too much on the past.
But I know the relaunches are probably kapoot. One mention of the Borg still being around or Picard being childless (and probably a hundred other things) will basically jettison large swaths of the novelverse. So it's a hopeless hope.
As far as continuity with canon--well, generally current shows avoid contradicting prior canon from a story perspective. The production design--yeah, they play pretty fast and loose with that, but that's a different issue. And since Picard is 20 years past the farthest reaching movie any changes to production design can be dismissed mostly just as the passage of time. There are no later shows/movies so they don't have to worry about that. From a story angle, I'd expect them to continue to honor existing canon for the most part, at least from a larger universe perspective (none of the shows were perfect in the finer details--they all contradicted something at some point, however minor).
I've had some issues with Discovery---though that's not to say I haven't enjoyed it in other ways. Picard will be different though. It can chart a new path without worrying about having to leave things as they were in some other show (i.e. Discovery basically has to put the pieces together for the original series). In a way Picard should have more freedom to go where they want it to. Historically, yeah, it's using the building blocks of The Next Generation. But other than the basic DNA of the show it can go in new directions.
I hope Picard is more forward looking and doesn't dwell on the past. Partly I freely admit is because I'm a loyal novel reader and have loved the relaunches of the various TV series. The less on the past Picard looks, the less it will contradict what happened in the novels. Partly it's because I prefer a show that moves forward and doesn't reflect too much on the past.
But I know the relaunches are probably kapoot. One mention of the Borg still being around or Picard being childless (and probably a hundred other things) will basically jettison large swaths of the novelverse. So it's a hopeless hope.
As far as continuity with canon--well, generally current shows avoid contradicting prior canon from a story perspective. The production design--yeah, they play pretty fast and loose with that, but that's a different issue. And since Picard is 20 years past the farthest reaching movie any changes to production design can be dismissed mostly just as the passage of time. There are no later shows/movies so they don't have to worry about that. From a story angle, I'd expect them to continue to honor existing canon for the most part, at least from a larger universe perspective (none of the shows were perfect in the finer details--they all contradicted something at some point, however minor).
I've had some issues with Discovery---though that's not to say I haven't enjoyed it in other ways. Picard will be different though. It can chart a new path without worrying about having to leave things as they were in some other show (i.e. Discovery basically has to put the pieces together for the original series). In a way Picard should have more freedom to go where they want it to. Historically, yeah, it's using the building blocks of The Next Generation. But other than the basic DNA of the show it can go in new directions.
The dates of Picard's retirement and new assignment between Nemesis and Picard, as well as stuff like Seven still having her cybernetic implants, have already rendered the novelverse moot.
Although the novelists say they have a plan, so there's probably some kind of Crisis-ish event in the works to reset and reconcile the timeline, or something.
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The dates of Picard's retirement and new assignment between Nemesis and Picard, as well as stuff like Seven still having her cybernetic implants, have already rendered the novelverse moot.
Although the novelists say they have a plan, so there's probably some kind of Crisis-ish event in the works to reset and reconcile the timeline, or something.
I had forgotten Seven lost her implants. I remember she was left behind by the Caeliar because she was not fully Borg but when I pictured her in the various novels I forgot about that and envisioned her as we last saw her.
Still, if that's all there was that wouldn't be a huge deal. But I have to admit I find it very unlikely the novelverse can be preserved. One mention of the Borg still being a threat I think would be enough to kill it. That's a huge storyline in the current novels just by itself. I know David Mack says they have a plan, but I'm not sure how they overcome something like that. I wonder if they were just kidding around. I honestly doubt we'll see any more relaunch novels now. I kind of hoped "Collateral Damage" would give us a nugget, or a little hint, about what their plans may be, esp. since David Mack is the one that said they had a plan. But unless I missed something I didn't see anything.
I do think it's possible they might throw the novels a bone. The showrunners said they reviewed the relaunches to see if there was anything there they might use. I think it's very possible we might see a plot thread or perhaps even a novelverse character show up.
The novels I read contradict each other and the shows, so I never took them seriously. They're entertaining, and I never disliked any of them, but to me they're simply in any of those >280000 parallel universes we saw in TNG
The relaunches have been remarkably consistent with each other since they started. Now it's true they aren't consistent with other areas of the Star Trek universe, like the comics and online game. But with each other they've been very good about that. It's one thing I loved about all the relaunches (even between shows like DS9 and TNG....and Voyager operates in that universe as well though they are behind a few years).
Now standalone novels aren't consistent, as are original series novels that don't have a continuing storyline. But the relaunches, yeah, that's one area where consistency and continuing storylines was important.
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