Michael B. Jordan as the Man Of Steel?
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Jordan said he'd like to play the character. This thread suggests he's unfit to do so because of his skin color.
No, we're talking about the same movie you just seem to have no understanding of gender swapping or the Terminator franchise. John Connor was never the pivotal character, he was nothing more than a plot device and he was only ever even a particularly successful plot device once (in the second movie) so it's hardly strange for them to consider trying something different (while also still bringing back the franchise's biggest and honestly only significant stars Arnold and Linda in the same basic roles). Also, the idea that it's perfectly fine for Judgement Day to get pushed back multiple times because of time travel but it's fundamentally illogical for someone else to take John Connor's savior role because of the same time travel is absolutely hilariously obtuse. Whether the person who takes that role is a man or woman doesn't matter at all.
And really? The protectors are 'normally' male? Based on what, the one guy who went back? All the protectors other than Kyle Reese (who is tied directly to John and obviously has to change if John changes) were Arnold playing a terminator who is still in Dark Fate in a separate role, so he obviously can't be the standard protector this time. Except of course for that time when John Connor was already protected by a female (terminator) for an entire tv series.
But in any case, that's one movie. It's ridiculous, but it's a pov (and pretty much the one I expected). The one I'm really scratching my head on is Dark Phoenix, which is a direct adaptation of one of the oldest classic X-Men stories starring exactly the character it's supposed to star surrounded by the same (gender and race-accurate) actors that the franchise has already showcased for multiple movies.
I'm past caring now. And got better things to do today than justify my opinion. I'm not against black actors being cast in films I'm just against blackwashing white characters as I would be for whitewashing black characters or Asian characters. Now I'm off to do those better things.
Meh. There’s a Black Superman in the multiverse. Never liked the actor though. Just gives off a bad vibe with me.
They need to create White Power Man. A KKK hood and a Nazi flag can be part of his costume. His alter-ego can be a tractor salesman in the heart of Alabama. No need to ever worry about a black actor touching that role.
Or not... (Not Safe for Work)
By the bye... BlacKKKlansman is a great movie.
Or not... (Not Safe for Work)
By the bye... BlacKKKlansman is a great movie.
But that’s supposed to be the excuse to justify casting a white guy by default.
In this era of billion dollar movies, “fine” is damning praise and not good business. Especially for Superman.
I don't care what color of skin the next Bruce Wayne*, Superman or James Bond has. If he embodies the role, then cast him!
* Obviously, the next Batman is a very pasty Robert Pattinson, but... the one after that.
I think what she's trying to say is that that phrasing is generally considered coded language because "best person for the job" is completely subjective and unquantifiable. So it's a nice way to move the goalposts when things don't go your way.
I don't care what color of skin the next Bruce Wayne*, Superman or James Bond has. If he embodies the role, then cast him!
* Obviously, the next Batman is a very pasty Robert Pattinson, but... the one after that.
...And I just totally mansplained.
It did $668 million worldwide, on a $225 million dollar budget (before marketing). Roughly half of the ticket total would go to theater operators. So WB made money off of Man of Steel, but they didn't make a lot when all was said and done. Most of its profitability probably came after the theatrical run was over.
I saw it three times.
It's kind of embarrassing to admit that.
It's kind of embarrassing to admit that.
Man of Steel? I've seen it a couple of times, I think it is mostly a good movie (falls apart in the last act). DC and WB just need to realize that the stakes don't have to be so freaking high in every goddamn movie.
It is also one of my pet peeves with current Trek. Where do you go after you save the world/universe from the end of everything?
A tad OTT but I'll interpret that as I think you intended it to be as sarcasm and dry humor.
Let us try to close this debate with you are not wrong wanting to see a new take on the character and open to new ideas, and I'm not wrong wanting to stick with the Superman I'm traditionally familiar with.
It's all about preference and choice and everybody can have different ones and neither is right or wrong.
If there is a market and enough interest for it then I hope you get your movie and get enjoyment and pleasure from it.
It's not a movie I'm personally interested in seeing, so I will do with many films in the cinema I don't want to go watch, I won't go and watch it, but I'm not going to deny anyone else who does want to watch that film from watching it
Okay, that’s fine. My point is I don’t care. It doesn’t matter to me. The female Ghostbusters didn’t bother me. I actually thought it was fun. Having a female 007 is cool by me. A girl Doctor Who! Great! So, let’s have an African American Superman. Why not? Yes, it is subjective in casting. My issue is that some are so quick to claim some sort of agenda. When in reality, it’s just casting directors not being as bogged down in demographics when it comes to doing their job. It widens the playing field considerably and I think that’s amazing.
I guess my question is this: if you heard great things from people you trust about a Jordan Superman movie, would you give it a try?
Yeah, it’s a dog whistle. I don’t think that was his intent though, just pointing it out in a joking manner.
Ok gloves are off, I'm taking a swing at you Clegg Nogg
Why is one wrong?, are you so ashamed of being white (if you are I apologise if you are not) and programmed so deeply by the state that you feel you have to apologize constantly for your white privilege and so conditioned to be seen as politically correct that anything that isn't a capitulation by a white person to a person of color is racist or wrong?
Do you carry that much white guilt?
Superman in all the media I have watched has been portrayed as white. It's what I am familiar with, It's how I see Superman. That is not wrong.
Who are you to tell me the esteem and pedestal iI place, my favorite hero is wrong?
My point about a black Superman is changing something for the sake of it and using the property to sell the idea rather than come up with something original.
If there is a market then fine make it. It's just not a film I'd be inclined to watch or be excited about.
Guess what snowflake contrary to opinion white people can be subject to racism as well it's not all about only white people are racist.
Mods you want to ban mee for this reply do whatever you want I'm done with this thread
