I think the fact that there was 'a handful' is what makes it a stretch. Unsure why it needs to be old money anyway. The whole setup would be fine with just Wayne's parents being rich.
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I think the fact that there was 'a handful' is what makes it a stretch. Unsure why it needs to be old money anyway. The whole setup would be fine with just Wayne's parents being rich.
Well, I think it was a great kids movie.
^ Yeah, I think there may have been fleeting references to the Waynes’ history in BvS & Begins, but other than that it’s hardly been a massive issue in any of the films.
There's the idea in Begins that the Waynes are almost guardians of the city. They might be the richest, but they also seem to be giving back, whether that means via charity or simply creating jobs. I guess that's why Bruce's transition to a self-centred playboy is viewed so negatively by the city, and one reason why Bruce himself decides to take more direct action.
It's a nice little underlying theme, but it's not really necessary for new installments.
Now, for both Batman and Superman, I think it would be better to choose a black actor and then just not have their skin color even mentioned in the movie. It should be a non-issue, so why not portray it as one? I don't like the idea that you have to explore social themes and such just because your leading man happens to have darker skin.
That said, if you were going to explore those themes, that whole idea of being a guardian to the city takes on a new aspect with a black Batman. From what I understand, one question that comes up in black communities is whether those who 'make it' should stay in the same place and help make the community more affluent or move into areas that are already more affluent. Making the Waynes a recently rich black family would be an interesting way to explore that issue. There'd be an interesting contrast between Batman's vigilant setup - which suggests a distrust or simple lack of confidence in the authorities- and the Wayne's more traditional social action.
Echoes of the X-Men's portrayal of 60s race relations with Magneto inspired by the more militant Malcolm X and Xavier by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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Because they did a good job with the Tim Burton ones and thus expectations where high. Jason
Well, this isn't going to go down well, but I kinda prefer the Schumacher ones. Mostly basing that on Returns. I'd rather watch something succeed at being bad than fail at being good, if you know what I mean?
LaSalle doesn't remind me anything of the kind of Batman presented in B&R, has he ever done anything with a similar bent?
We are lefties. We are already special in Gods eyes. We don't have to much to complain about, being sparred the shame of writing with the devils hand. JasonIt's just for a movie not for all media.
Won't some one think of the poor oppressed redheads?
I'm left handed, where's my representation????
I was just pointing out that black millionaires existed in the past. They aren't unicorns.
Dozier was counting on getting comic book fans to watch, as they were most familiar with the character when the show was in development in 1965. There was no existing Batman fanbase of any notable size (if at all) among the general population at the time.
Incorrect. The show's ratings dropped fast in its first season as a flash-in-the-pan, gimmick show. The movie was a flop, and the series struggled throughout its remaining two seasons as the ratings continued to plummet. That is not in any way defined by the statement "it was successful."
Batman's fans who...you know...actually supported the character in his source medium, which was there before the Dozier show, and were there long after it quickly sank like a boulder.
Batman as a comic outlasted every adaptation.
Yawn.
Gadot was a standout few could stop praising in Dawn of Justice. That introductory performance and the way she was handled overall made audiences want to see more of her take on the character.
...which is not analogous to how the Dozier series treated its characters. So...
Yes, that's what studios do. They make money from social trends among other things. For years the studios refused to make movies starring black people because they thought those movies would bomb, or at least that's what they said.
Perhaps not. Studios have now seen that movies starring minorities and women in non-traditional roles do make money and they are exploiting it. Nothing wrong with that. They aren't in the business of throwing money away. The people who are getting jobs that they may not have gotten 20-30 years ago aren't wasting time trying to figure out what the motivation is.
To me, this is an education issue. You should google "Bass Reeves". He was a deputy federal marshall in the post civil war southwest. The guy was a veritable super hero, in terms of capturing fugitives. And, guess what; he didn't just capture black people. They let him kill and arrest white people, too
.So the idea of a black federal agent in the old west being able to do the job as well a white agent, is not far fetched.
Absolutely true, though not a requirement for depicting a fictional old money rich black family.
It's really too bad, but so much of what people think wouldn't be accepted or would need explanation is based largely upon ignorance.
Well of course a comic book outlasted a tv show or a movie. You think it would be financially viable to have a TV show on for 80 years? And how would that comparison even work in movies?
Now, you’re just being silly.
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I'm not a believer in pretending there's no difference between experiences for black and white folks or that real problems didn't exist in the past because one can always find an outlier.
I think Clooney was basically cast on the basis that he was square-jawed & handsome and his character in ER was brooding, all of which applied to LaSalle.
I liked Clooney as Batman. It was a shame they couldn't commit to doing a retro version of Adam west era camp. Bat Credit Card, hilarious. Or go the way of something truly updated and closer to The Killing Joke what with having Batgirl in the thing. Audiences would have been outraged but that cast could have done it, I think. Ditch the silly Mr Freeze/Ivy stuff and go for TKJ would have been an awesome film.
No thank you cast a black Superman and I won't watch it. Grown-up with Christoper Reeve/Dean Cain/Brendan Routh/Henry Cavil and the Superman/Justice League animated series it just wouldn't be Superman to me.
If you want to make a black Superman type film then make an Icon or Martian Manhunter film, or you have different Superheroes like Kaldur'ahm (Aqualad/man), John Stewart Green Lantern, Cyborg, Mister Terrific, Vixen,
Sorry but I'm tired of all this diversity and woke nonsense in Hollywood.
If you want to make a black Superman type film then make an Icon or Martian Manhunter film, or you have different Superheroes like Kaldur'ahm (Aqualad/man), John Stewart Green Lantern, Cyborg, Mister Terrific, Vixen,
Sorry but I'm tired of all this diversity and woke nonsense in Hollywood.
don’t see it then. Bye.
From Wikipedia:
Schumacher cast Clooney in the role because he felt the actor could provide a lighter interpretation of the character than Michael Keaton (in Batman and Batman Returns) and Kilmer.
