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Spoilers The Mandalorian | Disney+ | Streaming Nov. 12

You know, I thought that Dave Filoni was involved with this show, but these Mandalorians are so far removed from even the shitty ones in TCW and Rebels that I'm starting to think he only had a "in name only" contribution to the show.

Seriously, I may hate the TCW/Rebels Mandalorians, and will only ever consider the Karen traviss Mandalorians to be the "real" ones, but I actually hate these obtuse shitheads more then the animated Mandos. I mean, come the fuck on, they never remove their helmets? Dave Filoni wrote a whole fucking show where a mandalorian barely wore her helmet. Also, all of this bullshit culture doesn't match any previous version of the Mandos, and its pretty stupid. they aren't hiding underground, literally or figuratively, and they definitely remove their helmets on a regular basis.

To be fair, I guess the animated mandalorians also made no sense when it came to TCW vs Rebels (where in Rebels the Mandalorians had obviously been warriors for centuries and had never been pacifists like in TCW). So I guess the Mandalorians are now just literally going to be completely different, and basically totally unrelated to each other, every time we see them. Either that or in the, what, 10 years between the end of Rebels and The Mandalorian the Mandos grew a brand new, bullshit obtuse warrior culture where they live underground and presumably intake food through intravenous means (since they can't remove their helmets they can't even use a feeding tube, and it must stink to never brush your teeth or clean your face/hair).

Combine that with this shows titular Mandoalorian being a pathetic wimp who loses to the weakest and most easily defeated aliens in the Galaxy, and this show has issues. I don't dislike the show, it has good action and some interesting story stuff, but the Mandalorian himself and his ridiculous, nonsensical culture are easily the worst parts of the show.
I never cared for Karen Traviss's version of the mandalorians. Like much of the EU, they were extremely overrated. The Clone Wars / Rebels version is a much more interesting take.
 
I never cared for Karen Traviss's version of the mandalorians. Like much of the EU, they were extremely overrated. The Clone Wars / Rebels version is a much more interesting take.
Agreed, though I appreciate that they're showing a version of that where it's not "the" Mandalorian culture, but an extremist warrior cult of exiles, cast-offs and indoctrinated foundlings scraping an existence together in the outer rim.
 
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I loved this episode, even if the bulk of the plot was pretty predictable. The action was fantastic.

We got some of the Mando lore I was hoping for here too. Hard to tell if this is supposed to be a traditionalist offshoot tribe, or if some seriously bad stuff happened to Mandalore in the last 15 or so years (since we left the world behind in Rebels). Almost sounds like a bit from column A and a bit from column B. I get the distinct impression that Sabine Wren unifying the clans didn't end well for the Mandalorians. Which might almost give the Mandos a reason to take issue with both the Empire (for the destruction) and the Republic (for not being their to help stave off said destruction).

Interesting parallels with the Jedi here, as well. An Imperial Purge, and going underground. Becoming creatures of myth and legend, almost.

The Clone Wars flashback definitely appears to be the origin story for the Mandalorian. But has he always been Mando? Or was he found by Mandalorians after his family was killed by the Separatists? Also, while perhaps unlikely and almost certainly unnecessary, the era of the flashback raises the possibility that the Mandalorian may have even met Yoda himself. Remember, Yoda led forces during the war as well. It isn't outside the realm of possibility that Yoda would have been involved in the Republic response to wherever the attack we're seeing took place. Which would feel a lot like small world syndrome, but could be an interesting way to tie the Mandalorian to the child beyond just the foundling connection. Yoda saved him, now he returns the favor for a child of Yoda's race.
 
I love the Armorer's armor.
Something I thought was interesting I forgot to mention before is the fact that Greef Karga was just calling the main character Mando. So apparently even the people he deals with on a regular basis don't know his real name.
 
Also, while perhaps unlikely and almost certainly unnecessary, the era of the flashback raises the possibility that the Mandalorian may have even met Yoda himself. Remember, Yoda led forces during the war as well. It isn't outside the realm of possibility that Yoda would have been involved in the Republic response to wherever the attack we're seeing took place. Which would feel a lot like small world syndrome, but could be an interesting way to tie the Mandalorian to the child beyond just the foundling connection. Yoda saved him, now he returns the favor for a child of Yoda's race.

If that were the case, he wouldn't have been so confused when the baby levitated the mudhorn.
I think it's obvious what the connection here is that they're both orphans and little Frogwai legit saved his life to boot.
 
Fun episode that did feel straight out of a Clone Wars episode at the end. Not sure if I’m into the whole never takes the helmet off shtick if that’s the plan for the whole series. Doesn’t jive at all with anything in the Clone Wars or Rebels which is supposed to be canon too.
 
If that were the case, he wouldn't have been so confused when the baby levitated the mudhorn.
I think it's obvious what the connection here is that they're both orphans and little Frogwai legit saved his life to boot.

Because you just assume every baby you meet is Force sensitive and can life mudhorns on command? That's daft, as reasoning goes.

And I don't disagree with you on the connection. But the Clone Wars era opens a door if they want to walk through it. I'd honestly rather they didn't (again, small universe syndrome).
 
That big heavy weapons Mandalorian sounded like Jon Favreau, specifically his Pre Vizla voice from Clone Wars.

The only named Mandos in the credits are the 'Armourer' and 'Paz Vizla'. The Armourer is obvious, so 'Paz Vizla' must be the big guy.

'Tait Fletcher' is credited as 'Paz Vizla', but it says double besides the character's name, so he might not be the voice. It's possible Favreau is uncredited for the speaking role.


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I see now why Deborah Chow is helming the Obi-Wan series. Excellent direction! Nice visuals! Really good episode. Can't wait to see where this goes from here! I'm really enjoying this.

The directing in this episode was great. She did an awesome job. "Obi Wan" is in good hands!
 
Holy smokes, this episode was just spectacular. I did every I wish the previous episodes had done and then some.

Finally some real characterization for our titular hero. More backstory revealed. Great stuff about the Mandalorian culture, its history and his place in it.

And the other characters really popped here, too, particuarly Greef Carga and especially the scientist. Even the Mandalorians got some personality, too.

The action and suspense was top notch. Love the scene of his raid on the Imperials - very tense. And the standoff and ensuing action scene were aces.

Finally the story kicks into high gear and the Mandalorian makes a real choice. He's not just screwing over a client, he's burning down his relationship with Carga and his entire life as a bounty hunter.

Wow, seriously hooked, can't wait to see how this unfolds.

(Whew, I was getting worried there for a second, but it looks like Favreau has righted the ship after a rocky star and we're full speed ahead!)
 
Haha. You can't put actors in a TV show and not pay them.
Completely untrue. Reenactors, for example, frequently get put in historical films and TV shows as background extras all the time. Most of them aren’t members of SAG and wouldn’t be allowed to have lines. And before you say “but they had speaking roles”, they were wearing helmets and gaffed the sound in post, likely by paid voice actors. When you’re doing stuff like that, you’re not in it for the money, you’re in it to be in it, and bragging rights to say, “I was in that”.
 
Completely untrue. Reenactors, for example, frequently get put in historical films and TV shows as background extras all the time. Most of them aren’t members of SAG and wouldn’t be allowed to have lines. And before you say “but they had speaking roles”, they were wearing helmets and gaffed the sound in post, likely by paid voice actors. When you’re doing stuff like that, you’re not in it for the money, you’re in it to be in it, and bragging rights to say, “I was in that”.

Extras are paid, whether SAG or non-union. ESPECIALLY costumed extras.
 
Yeah, I think there are even people who do it for a living.
I just remembered something from one of the trailers, I think possibly in the second one, we do see a woman reaching up to take off his helmet. So there is a pretty good chance, even if we don't see his face, that he will end up without his helmet on in front of at least person.
 
That's my favorite episode of the season so far. The urgency feels to be ramped up and this episode had some amazing action. We also learned the status of the bounty hunters and more about the code. The backstory is finally starting to fall into place, which was very welcomed.
 
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