STAR TREK 4 BACK ON! Noah Hawley to write and direct

[pst]

Honestly, given that the three films spanned five years story-wise and it's been a decade real-world wise, and also given that the actors were older than the characters they were playing, I'd be okay with actually time jumping forward a whole decade past Beyond into what their equivalent of the TMP era would be - new uniforms, new props, totally different looking sets, the works. Let's see how Pine looks with curly hair and a turtleneck!

i hope they do align the film with the passage of real time. by the time this thing gets released (if it does), it'll have been so long since beyond, this could be considered a reunion movie. get some of that nostalgia money.

 

[Amaris]

I'd just like to say now that if this flops (and seeing how many high profile Paramount movies are tanking, it's a distinct possibility), I'm still calling it a win because we get another Kelvinverse movie

This. How much money a movie makes has no bearing on the fact that I get a new movie. The only time I get irked is when people insist a movie did poorly at the box office and is, by that association, an awful film.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Joker just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that audiences will accept an out-of-continuity movie.

General audiences don't care about a movie's continuity. They care if a movie is good or not.

I really liked Star trek Beyond and wonder who would replace Chekov. I wonder if it would be Kevin Riley or someone else.

Jaylah is right there. She was well-received, and audiences are already familiar with her. If they can get the actress back (no idea if she was signed for sequels or not), why not just use her? Kevin Riley wouldn't mean anything to anyone except hardcore Trek fans.

 

[Kirk Prime]

So far, the existence of a movie doesn't really excite me. The last movie came out during the 50th anniversary and they didn't do anything special with it. It was basically a fancy episode that was forgettable. I'm nowhere near as attached to the cast as I am the original, and I absolutely believe that Chekov should be recast.

All of the characters can be recast. Or since it's sci-fi, I'd even be fine with a de-aged Walter Keonig.

If not here, then maybe in the Tarantino film if it ever is made. I'm a big fan of de-aging in certain cases.

For me though, I care about the story. Abrams hasn't delivered a great movie yet. They weren't as bad as the TNG films, but they were off for me. I hope they get it right this time. They've never done anything to make me boycott or not want to see the Abrams movies, but they also have never done anything to make me super duper excited to see them either. Nothing must see other than the inclusion of the original characters.

 

[Greg Cox]

Joker just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that audiences will accept an out-of-continuity movie. So Trekkies are just gonna have to fluster about timelines for awhile longer.

Amen. It's funny. In the lead-up to JOKER, I encountered lots of skepticism from hardcore comics fans while my less fannish fans all thought the trailers looked great. Look who's laughing now, pun definitely intended.

As JohnnyQuest also sagely points out, general audiences don't lose sleep about "canon" or "timelines." Nor should they.

STAR TREK is not just for Trekkies.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Track records don't mean everything. Consider:

TMP: Directed by Robert Wise, a legendary director responsible for many classic films, including some huge box-office hits.

KHAN: Meyer was a novelist with one small movie on his resume, TIME AFTER TIME, which was not exactly a box-office smash, and Harve Bennett was mostly a TV producer, hired for his ability to produce stuff on TV budgets.

Which movie turned out better?

Do you mean just quality-wise? Strictly from a financial view TMP made more money than Khan.

 

[Kor]

I hope they replace those weird stubby nacelles on the new Enterprise.

Kor

 

[Khan 2.0]

So far, the existence of a movie doesn't really excite me. The last movie came out during the 50th anniversary and they didn't do anything special with it. It was basically a fancy episode that was forgettable

It draws some worrying parallels to Terminator in the last movie underwhelmed which didn't help the new one at all (other factors were at play of course but the previous movie underwhelming/underperforming is a big factor in many films bombing even previous Treks) .
Then again its was pleasing to see on Twitter, bbs etc 'Star Trek 4 is back on!'

 

[valkyrie013]

Well let's see .. 09 was in 2258, itd drop place in 59, 60, Beyond was in 2263. Let's say they take it forward 5 years to 2268. 5 year mission completed.
Savik? To early?

 

[Khan 2.0]

Savik? To early?

Didn't stop them using chekov

 

[F. King Daniel]

Yeah they'll fudge the character's ages if they want Saavik or anyone else. Personally, if not Jaylah I want Darwin back.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm intrigued, and relieved Tarantino isn't involved.

Tarantino's movie is still happening, this is separate from it.

 

[BillJ]

Not sure I actually see this one happening.

 

[Markonian]

Honestly naive question - if ST4 gets really made (fingers crossed), do you think they might include the tiniest reference to DSC? Like a cameo of their Kelvin-timeline counterparts, or reused props?

(In the DSC 2018 Annual comic, Prime!Stamets is seen riding a ST09 military shuttle, for example).

 

[fireproof78]

I absolutely believe that Chekov should be recast.

I understand actors being recast, certainly, but I think that would be in poor taste, and a lack of respect towards the rest of the cast members for their feelings regarding Anton Yelchin and his sudden passing.

Just my opinion.

 

[The Wormhole]

Not sure I actually see this one happening.

It's still early yet and anything can happen, but yeah, I'll believe there's a fourth Kelvin movie when I'm sitting in a theatre watching it.

Honestly naive question - if ST4 gets really made (fingers crossed), do you think they might include the tiniest reference to DSC? Like a cameo of their Kelvin-timeline counterparts, or reused props?

There's no reason there couldn't be one, though I'm not sure how they'd do it. Maybe just a throwaway reference to spore drive experiments on Discovery, the last ship to make contact with this planet was the Shenzhou, that sort of thing. I wonder if they would be so bold as to have Spock mention his sister?

 

[BillJ]

I wonder if they would be so bold as to have Spock mention his sister?

God, you've got to hope not.

 

[fireproof78]

I wonder if they would be so bold as to have Spock mention his sister?

I would be very happy to hear this.

 

[Kor]

Only if they also mention his missing brother who went off to pursue illogic.

Kor

 

[Greg Cox]

I understand actors being recast, certainly, but I think that would be in poor taste, and a lack of respect towards the rest of the cast members for their feelings regarding Anton Yelchin and his sudden passing.

Just my opinion.

I'm generally okay with recasting, but in this case, given the unusually tragic circumstances, I'd just let Chekov go live happily ever after somewhere else, which would be easy enough to do. And pity the poor actor who did have to replace Yelchin, considering. Kinda a thankless job.

One of the advantages of these movies being set in an alternate timeline is that you don't have to follow the original chronology religiously. There's no reason you HAVE to include Chekov just because that's what the previous cycle of movies did. Heck, considering that THE WRATH OF KHAN hasn't happened in this timeline, this Chekov could easily end up serving on the Reliant for years and years--or have some completely different career altogether.