What you're getting from these stories is a certain heightened level of stupid.
Drop the S31 show for a Captain Pike show?
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What you're getting from these stories is a certain heightened level of stupid.
To each their own man. I like Georgiou. She's fun.
Again, I ask: Why bring up "The Orville" here?
Again, I ask: Why bring up "The Orville" here?
The Orville is evidence that a segment of fandom watches Star Trek not because it’s Star Trek or outstanding television, but because its tropes fill a particular comfort zone, similar to some Netflix originals which so obviously owe their existence to the success of another show or movie.
It's interesting that The Orville is 'better than Star Trek!' for people I know who never loved Star Trek 'because Star Trek is stupid'. It's interesting that the same people don't love 'these stupid superhero shows' but are excited of The Boys. The same with Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality. Don't want to make hasty conclusions...
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Add to that the general audience used to the “good old days” of catching the bland kind of Star Trek on network TV.
Including STD unless the studio is taking a loss to make sure investors keep paying and arent scared off by a lack luster streaming service. CBS has other subsidiary companies they can draw from to keep the ship afloat, to use for padding, and keep their share holders calm. Given there's no numbers on STD streaming fans and subs, its kind of an open question for me, on how a season 3 was green lit. Especially if many had the same visceral reaction I did watching that disaster of season 1. Season 2 was a bit better. But it still will never be Star Trek in my book. It will always be STINO for me. "Star Trek in Name only." Kurtzman Trek, and JJ trek aren't my cup o tea. Tho, I do like watching a train wreck. So I may tune in for season 3. Depends on the synopsis for the first 3 episodes. I'll wait till a few reviews surface first. And I have ZERO confidence in RT and their bias scoring system. So They're assessment doesn't count for,me anymore. No offense intended for STD fanboys. We all have our individual likes and dislikes.
One should never underestimate the power of comfort food television.
Yes, but comfort food is anti-IDIC since it doesn’t expose the audience to those infinite combinations which approximate boldly going somewhere in a starship. A show in the spirit of Star Trek is one that tries to be nothing like it and thereby offers the greatest surprises.
You are quite correct. It often times amazes how that principle is missed within the Star Trek fan base. A show which espouses diversity is not allowed to have diverse presentation?
Do not both shows "espouse diversity"?
I have not seen the second season of Orville, but the first season seemed to be doing all the same things Star Trek was doing that year.
The purpose of the show is "to be like Star Trek," yes? Why should its goal be different than what the producers want?! I mean, what the hell? This kinda talk falls into the "speaking words, saying nothing" category.
I have not seen the second season of Orville, but the first season seemed to be doing all the same things Star Trek was doing that year.
The purpose of the show is "to be like Star Trek," yes? Why should its goal be different than what the producers want?! I mean, what the hell? This kinda talk falls into the "speaking words, saying nothing" category.
More to the point was that Star Trek can have multiple styles of presentation and not just one format.
Otherwise, I would be quite right in saying TNG is not Star Trek.
A show which is to be “like Star Trek” can’t be a knockoff, but rather its own groundbreaking concept setting new precedents. How can anything be “like Star Trek” if it isn’t boldly going where no one has gone before?
It's positive message, a bright human future. Not hallway in-depth conversations and endless crew bickering with a psychopathic possible PTSD narcissistic protagonist.
Ah, yes, the positive message that only happy people are allowed.
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You’re saying a sci-fi starship show can’t have a positive message without being a Star Trek knockoff?
What’s this with people always putting The Orville in opposition to DSC? It’s not a matter of TV programming making you choose between two camps. Nobody is telling you to watch DSC instead, which is average, uninspiring Star Trek, but merely that The Orville is a knockoff, not actually a parody like Galaxy Quest.
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