And even if that were true, it'll undoubtedly take several years for the deal to finalize (assuming it even goes through).
Spidey OUT of MCU
- Thread starter Flying Spaghetti Monster
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Another thing, even if Sony wanted to sell their movie division, I see no legal reasons why the Spidey licence would revert back to Marvel. That just makes no sense to me whatsoever.
And to those who keep saying that Disney should buy Sony, they need to be reminded that it wasn't certain that Disney would even be legally allowed to buy Fox, because of antitrust issues. Disney buying another big movie studio so shortly after that?! I don't think so.
And to those who keep saying that Disney should buy Sony, they need to be reminded that it wasn't certain that Disney would even be legally allowed to buy Fox, because of antitrust issues. Disney buying another big movie studio so shortly after that?! I don't think so.
Some are so...desperate for Spider-Man to be tossed back to the MCU. Sony is not letting go of the character.
They're desperate to keep a good thing going, something Sony is infamous for not being able to do.
Right back at you.In your opinion.
Proven track records aren't really a matter of opinion, they're...well, they're proven track records!In your opinion.
If you were talking about that sort of thing, this would be relevant.
I mean, those two Amazing Spider-Man movies that everyone disses did close to 1.5 billion dollars worldwide box office between them, the cartoon movie has done 375 million and Venom over 850 million. MCU fans can pretend that Sony needs them terribly to produce successful superhero movies, but all that posturing just translates to English as "we don't like them."
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And yet, they couldn't keep it going...
And was made by a separate division of the company, so not relevant.
A data point of one does not keep anything going. It just is. We'll see if and when they try and continue it.
Indeed if we want to get mathematical about this, their current track record on their *three* Spidey franchises they made all on their lonesome consists of: three movies, two movies, and one movie respectively. I'd call that a downward trend in terms of franchise longevity.
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You are not successfully evading the point, though you're trying.
Sony has grossed in the area of 3.1 billion dollars on Spider-Man and Spider-Man-derived films. I'm not sure you're aware that the point of making movies is not to keep one version of a property perpetuating itself until the Sun burns out. It's to make and release commercially successful movies. Sony keeps doing that with Spider-Man.
Sony has kept their Spider-Man properties going for most of this century, to the tune of 3.1 billion in box office, throughout most of this century.
It's sad, I suppose, for both the people running Disney and for devotees of the MCU's repetitious mediocrity that the people running Sony corporation know full well that they do not need the Disney corporation's assistance in order to continue producing successful Spider-Man movies.
Here's why the negotiations fell down, ultimately: Feige's employers overplayed their hand. The party in a negotiation who has the thing that the other party wants and/or needs has the upper hand. Sony always had the upper hand, because they have Spider-Man and they don't need the MCU. They might like the MCU and the extra dollars that association would generate, but they know they don't need it - and they also know that every bit of influence over the character they cede, film by film, to Disney weakens the longer-term value of the character to them because it becomes harder to be credibly independent in any later negotiations.
Way back in March, financial observers were talking about the considerable downside of the Sony/Disney Spidey-sharing arrangement for Sony.
No wonder Sony put a spike in it, a spike probably driven by at least in part by Venom and Spider-Verse.
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In your opinion.
Yep.
If you were talking about that sort of thing, this would be relevant.
I mean, those two Amazing Spider-Man movies that everyone disses did close to 1.5 billion dollars worldwide box office between them, the cartoon movie has done 375 million and Venom over 850 million. MCU fans can pretend that Sony needs them terribly to produce successful superhero movies, but all that posturing just translates to English as "we don't like them."
Further, the Raimi films--also from Sony--are still the far and away best Spider-Man films, something Spidey-Lad (or the former Spidey-Lad) from the MCU did not come close to matching in terms of characterization and being faithful to the source.
But that is ignored...acknowledging it wakes some up from the Spidey-Lad dream.
All true.
Sony's current Spider-product - Spider-Verse, Zendaya/Holland - is by far my favorite.
Spider-Gwen is a movie, or at least a streaming series. Miles Morales can go on in animation for as long as they like, or take over from Parker when Holland moves on; either works. One has to assume that there will be a follow-on from Venom.
As for the MCU, the obvious replacement for Stark is Reed Richards.
Spider-Gwen is a movie, or at least a streaming series. Miles Morales can go on in animation for as long as they like, or take over from Parker when Holland moves on; either works. One has to assume that there will be a follow-on from Venom.
As for the MCU, the obvious replacement for Stark is Reed Richards.
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In your opinion.
If you're trapped in the 60s.
Yes yes yes, we all know how much you hate the idea of Spidey not being in his own little world and never being able to develop beyond his base premise. The notion that he could pay the bills and advance his life instead of being an incompetent is repugnant to you. We know.
Because Sony puts out too much garbage for the good to shine through.
No, we just know Sony will shoot itself in the foot. Something MCU doesn't do.
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Someone needs to stop smoking that crap. Delusions are quite unhealthy.
Keep on believing your pro-MCU/anti-Sony delusions, and the rest of us will continue to live in reality.
Mr Pot hath spoken.
Yes, all centered (at his moment) on the ever so perfect MCU Spidey-Lad. They can keep the memory of him, while Sony still has the most faithful version of the character.
The almighty Sony that gave us classics like SM3 and ASM2. Sorry, I'd rather trust the company that made Iron Man a household name.