Regarding Fed ships appearing in the new Picard series

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  1. DaveyNY

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    ... or perhaps the children are forceably head shaved during a rite at a certain age, to prepare them for future battles.
    The ones shown were all apparently about the same age.
     
  2. Dukhat

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    Maybe. Funny how that was never mentioned though.
     
  3. fireproof78

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    And it got retconned. if I had nickle every time Trek did that...

    Also, given that I know what Klingons look like I didn't buy the "naturally hairless" line. Too far even for me.
     
  4. Dukhat

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    "What we know about Klingons" is meaningless. They're a fictional alien race, and like their appearance, anything about them can be changed or retconned. That was kind of my whole point about their appearance and their ships. It's not the drastic changes that I have an issue with. It's the half-assed explanations given for them.
     
  5. DaveyNY

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    A lot of things don't get mentioned in Trek tales.
    I prefer to find logical in Universe reasons to explain that kind of stuff.
    Instead of dismissing it out right as a reason to diss the show and it's creators.
     
  6. Dukhat

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    Except I'm not dissing the show and its creators. I'm pointing out one specific aspect of the show I don't like.
     
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    And I don't have issue with their explanations. They can explain it until they're blue in the face. I expect variety in an alien race. DSC actually made me interested in Klingons again. That's hard to do.
     
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    And I liked the DSC Klingons as well. What I don't like is when the producers feel the need to make up excuses when they fuck up instead of just admitting they were wrong and going from there. It insults my intelligence. YMMV.
     
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    That’s never mentioned in the actual show. So the reasoning isn’t canon.
     
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    All of TV is smoke and mirrors bordering on insulting my intelligence. This is just me, I could not care what excuses the production team makes up. That's not why I watch their product. I'm a reasonably intelligent individual. I think I can figure stuff out on my own and don't need an explanation, half or full assed.
     
  11. Dukhat

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    Then where did this idea come from?
     
  12. Tuskin38

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    Comments from the make up designer and Klingon actors.
     
  13. Dukhat

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    Which is exactly how I feel, which is why it annoys me when they try to do so.
     
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    The bald Klingons and their ships were Bryan Fuller’s thing. He left too close to the start of Season 1s filming for them to change them for that season, so they did it for Season 2.

    I have a feeling the war shaving excuse was head canon from the designer, and not actually from the story team. I don’t think any of the writers or producers have commented on it.
     
  15. fireproof78

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    It's nothing personal so I feel no need to be annoyed.
     
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  16. Dukhat

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    YMMV. Insulting my intelligence doesn't need a personal aspect for it to annoy me.
     
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    Clearly. But, current audiences have not given studios a reason to take them seriously.

    So, I don't take the studios seriously.
     
  18. Dukhat

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    Well, we've beaten this dead horse enough IMHO.
     
  19. fireproof78

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    If you say so...:shrug:
     
  20. Dukhat

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    Well, I dunno, do you want to keep discussing how you and I don't agree on the producers' supposed motives?
     
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