Spidey OUT of MCU

- Still waiting for you to show how I 'marginalized' any aspect of the FF in the 1960ies. (Which you left out from your quoting of my previous post above.

- Also, I wasn't trying to make a comment about the quality of the shows that were produced - just that MARVEL got PAID for the licensing. (Your point was they were almost bankrupt - my point weas the POPULARITY of the FF allowed them to license said property and get some money.)

- Lastly, PLEASE show me anything I posted claiming the MCU version of teh FF should follow after ANY of the previous THREE films (I don't count the Roger Corman 1990ies version as an actual attempt, although the version of Doctor Doom was mildly interesting). My ONE point is that I believe Feige and Co. COULD do a very good version of the FF for the MCU, and I'd LOVE to see their take <-- And that's all I've ever said in that subject - IDK where you gleaned I thought the earlier iterations of the FF films were something they should emulate for the MCU version as I've not said ANYTHING like that.

 

He was fighting some holographic illusions. Mainly he was fighting a bitter dude in a big cape and fishbowl helmet.

 

Nope.

Hey, go ahead and watch another MCU movie. We're just fine, over here in the Spidey-Verse.

What you're posting isn't interesting me, so that wraps it up on my side.

 

You realize that Into the Spider-Verse basically was just an MCU movie except they used AU Spider-Man characters instead of MCU characters?

 

I do not want to be advised to be thankful about any severing of the Spider-Man properties from the rest of the MCU, please? I don't agree with that sentiment.

 

Wat?

 

The whole big plot about multidimensional travels and teaming up with other heroes and stuff. Total kind of plot you'd see in the MCU. Except instead of using MCU characters they just used Spidey characters from alternate universes to fill in for them and pretend that it's a 100% self contained movie.

 

"You'd" is in you would... except we haven't. So... how could it be anything like the MCU? We don't even know if there are multiple dimensions in the MCU.

 

You gotta be kidding me. The MCU didn't come up with the idea of alternate dimensions (and like @Professor Zoom said we haven't seen those in the MCU), and more importantly the idea of Spidey teaming up with alternate versions of himself was done 25 years ago in the Animated Series.

 

MJ Red Sonja needs to happen!

 

Others have already said it, but this isn't a correct statement.

 

We DO know, thanks to Dr Strange, about the Multiverse. And the plot in Into the Spider-Verse is as removed from "Everyday angst" Spider-Man stuff the Raimi fans love as anything ghe did in the MCU movies. So using it as some gold standard isn't the best idea.

 

Regardless, it still doesn’t follow it’s an MCU movie with spider people instead.

The MCU hasn’t done anything like Spider-verse and now that it’s been done, unlikely they will.

 

Not to mention the Spider-Verse itself.

Spidey doesn't need the MCU. Never did.

Of course, the gag in Far From Home was that the notion of Earths-nnn was all nothing but a bit of melodramatic fictional backstory concocted by a hack writer working with Mysterio.

 

Dealing with big crisis' like interdimensional stuff is more Avengers level than Spider-Man level, which makes it more like an MCU movie than a traditional Spidey movie.

It enriched things beyond the usual banal stuff about Peter dealing with his rent, and Peter was always having adventures with other Marvel characters in his comics.

 

There's no reason that couldn't still happen though, we saw WW2 as a series of snapshots, in between which we are told that Cap was a highly influential figure in the war effort. There's no reason to presume those intervening periods couldn't be re visited.

 

People seem to forget that "First Avenger" took place over a period of 2-3 years. There's plenty of time for flashback adventures.

 

Again, "Spider-Wars" from the 90s animated series introduced this concept 25 years ago and it's been revisited in a video game and the comics' Spider-verse story from about 5 years ago. And now truly masterfully done by Into the Spider-verse.

 

Lockjaw teleported Ben Grimm to an alternate Earth - where the local version of himself was Mr. Fantastic, and married to Sue Storm - back in 1972. And, of course, DC's been doing the multiverse thing since the 1960s...

 

Which is funny... the inter-dimensional stuff was sort of the plot of Far From Home, until the twist... so... nope.